Message from @beyond_gravity

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2019-05-21 06:23:46 UTC  

@lemonsaw they are disproportionately criminals too

2019-05-21 06:23:57 UTC  

Just wanted to say that

2019-05-21 06:24:22 UTC  

1 + 1 type of scenario here

2019-05-21 06:24:37 UTC  

Yes true and that's a genuine argument for once

2019-05-21 06:24:59 UTC  

Now you might want to ask yourself why they are disproportionately criminals

2019-05-21 06:25:20 UTC  

Yes you can ask that but that’s down to black people

2019-05-21 06:25:26 UTC  

Nobody is holding them down anymore

2019-05-21 06:25:31 UTC  

Poor parenting for starters

2019-05-21 06:25:42 UTC  

If they have any

2019-05-21 06:25:49 UTC  

For example Latinos or Asians don’t have the same stats why is that ?

2019-05-21 06:25:56 UTC  

*ahem 18 years going to store for cigarettes*

2019-05-21 06:26:26 UTC  

You see, your argument went like this, they are victim of police violence because they are disproportionately criminals

2019-05-21 06:26:33 UTC  

But some people argue the contrary

2019-05-21 06:26:37 UTC  

I think the problem BLM has is that it doesn't focus on that question. It simply blames police officers for everything. MLK said that the black community must fix problems such as this rather than just putting all the blame on whites

2019-05-21 06:26:53 UTC  

Nope there’s no evidence for that argument @lemonsaw

2019-05-21 06:27:10 UTC  

There is strong evidence for unfairness in the justice system based on race

2019-05-21 06:27:21 UTC  

The police do not create criminals @lemonsaw

2019-05-21 06:27:34 UTC  

@lemonsaw there is no such evidence

2019-05-21 06:27:38 UTC  

Studies have shown again and gain there is a racial bias

2019-05-21 06:28:00 UTC  

Sentences are usually sentenced on many factors. One of them being if they were to commit a crime again.

2019-05-21 06:28:01 UTC  

Fake news show me one study from the last year with verified citations

2019-05-21 06:28:24 UTC  

Blacks are more likely to commit crimes again

2019-05-21 06:28:37 UTC  

If anything white people go to jail a lot more

2019-05-21 06:28:55 UTC  

Because there is no pushback of it being for racial reasons

2019-05-21 06:29:02 UTC  

"Fake news"?

2019-05-21 06:29:18 UTC  

He means CNN

2019-05-21 06:29:27 UTC  

There is a reason black people make up so much crime

2019-05-21 06:29:40 UTC  

It's bad parenting and things like that

2019-05-21 06:29:41 UTC  

Show me a study from the last 5 years which shows black people got unfair treatment ?

2019-05-21 06:29:45 UTC  

A culture of deadbeat fathers

2019-05-21 06:30:14 UTC  

Cum n run

2019-05-21 06:30:37 UTC  

Can I show you a Washington post article which has gathered over 20 studies on police profiling and racial bias in the justice system

2019-05-21 06:30:50 UTC  

I don't know what you consider as fake news

2019-05-21 06:30:56 UTC  

If they cite their sources fine

2019-05-21 06:31:04 UTC  

And don’t draw arbitrary conclusions

2019-05-21 06:31:14 UTC  

Scroll down

2019-05-21 06:32:22 UTC  

When you raise a generation of boys with no fathers, who's male role model are a bunch of shitty rappers that are constantly talking about gangs and killing, it's no surprise that many of these boys end up in prison

2019-05-21 06:32:30 UTC  

That is the problem that must be fixed

2019-05-21 06:32:48 UTC  

I agree

2019-05-21 06:33:14 UTC  

But empirical data also shows there are social biases