Message from @Sh0t

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2020-01-02 15:13:44 UTC  

one of the problems is the white underclass has been subject to a psyop for almost 400 years. It all starts after bacon's rebellion

2020-01-02 15:14:08 UTC  

That event initiated a formalized process to keep the white underclass from ever having any solidarity with slaves/blacks

2020-01-02 15:14:12 UTC  

you're putting me on to a lot, bookmarking all this stuff for later.

2020-01-02 15:14:20 UTC  

It basically kicked off the idea of Race in America we hold today

2020-01-02 15:14:59 UTC  

It was a shitty goal, but underclass Whites and Blacks fought together in a little uprising over stealing indian land, the royal gov was aghast they organized together

2020-01-02 15:15:07 UTC  

1670s

2020-01-02 15:15:58 UTC  

in bacon's rebellion?

2020-01-02 15:16:02 UTC  

yup

2020-01-02 15:16:52 UTC  

The aftermath of it basically lead to the propaganda "as long as we can convince them they are above a Black, they will be on our side"

2020-01-02 15:17:28 UTC  

```Indentured servants both black and white joined the frontier rebellion. Seeing them united in a cause alarmed the ruling class. Historians believe the rebellion hastened the hardening of racial lines associated with slavery, as a way for planters and the colony to control some of the poor.[23]```

2020-01-02 15:17:41 UTC  

the wikipedia summary. you can find some deep takes on it out there of course

2020-01-02 15:18:09 UTC  

yep i just bookmarked it for later

2020-01-02 15:18:40 UTC  

thanks!!

2020-01-02 15:19:01 UTC  

o7

2020-01-02 15:20:50 UTC  

the aftermath of it had a uhge influence on many American noteables that grew up in Virgina in the 18th century, Washington in particular

2020-01-02 15:22:20 UTC  

Rice's book seems more focused on the Indian situation, but that is a good read too

2020-01-02 15:24:29 UTC  

I believe I first got into it with *Imperfect God* which is a bio about Washington from Henry Wiencek. It only had a few pages on it to set the stage for washington's life, but i was intrigued and got more into it. I've read the Morgan book which I see is referenced often along side the Rice one

2020-01-02 15:28:56 UTC  

a book that's been on my to read list appears to discuss it as well https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22587515-the-invention-of-the-white-race-volume-1

2020-01-02 15:29:15 UTC  

```When the first Africans arrived in Virginia in 1619, there were no “white” people there. Nor, according to colonial records, would there be for another sixty years. In this seminal two-volume work, The Invention of the White Race, Theodore W. Allen tells the story of how America’s ruling classes created the category of the “white race” as a means of social control. Since that early invention, white privileges have enforced the myth of racial superiority, and that fact has been central to maintaining ruling-class domination over ordinary working people of all colors throughout American history.```

2020-01-02 15:29:24 UTC  

ya that's a good one

2020-01-02 15:29:48 UTC  

I hae a whole shelf of that, Invented Whiteness, when affirmative action was white ,great stuff lol

2020-01-02 15:31:10 UTC  

much of it is great general history as well, up there with *Albion Seed* which gives background onto which Brits settled where and influenced the culture here in the US. Sowell's *White Liberals and Black Rednecks* talks about that a bit

2020-01-02 15:31:52 UTC  

stuff on the British in Ireland is great too, they used all sorts of racial language on the Irish

2020-01-02 15:48:12 UTC  

wow i've never heard of albion seed, this sounds great

2020-01-02 15:48:28 UTC  

i have white liberals and black rednecks

2020-01-02 15:51:54 UTC  

and

2020-01-02 15:53:12 UTC  
2020-01-02 15:53:23 UTC  

the Karp book is one of my favorites because i'm a big foreign policy wonk

2020-01-02 15:53:51 UTC  

i need to get more informed on foreign policy

2020-01-02 15:53:55 UTC  

thank you for the links!

2020-01-02 15:54:07 UTC  

i had the first one in my to read already, guess i'm in the right direction

2020-01-02 15:54:25 UTC  

thanks brother 🙏🏾

2020-01-02 15:54:30 UTC  

there is some hilarious irony about the underclass whites complaining about china and outsourcing now when you get nto the foreign policy implications of Slavery

2020-01-02 15:54:39 UTC  

_bows humbly_

2020-01-02 15:55:10 UTC  

I suspect a lot of the race baiting is done to drive them away from learning about Slavery from any angle except "the Civil War dead paid for reparations"

2020-01-02 15:58:35 UTC  

i get really annoyed when they act like slavery was just an incident with no blowback or residual effect

2020-01-02 15:58:51 UTC  

they acknowledge generational trauma and effects within the jewish community

2020-01-02 16:00:19 UTC  

Flip to the positive: where would you family be if they stayed in Europe when your great grandparents emigrated?