The only reason why prices are bundled is because of a complex insurance system created by intervention; but like I said it's less about competition but more about regulatory burdens.

The thing is, considering the nature of emergencies and healthcare in generally none of the principles of the free market can apply

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ So even though regulation is the only reason Hospitals must release prices. We should tear down regulation, and then we’ll have a free market

If we get rid of regulation that will only lead to increaed prices

No, I'm not for such regulation. My point is in a private system the complex insurance based system incentivising bundling will be removed, allowing for greater transparency.

> If we get rid of regulation that will only lead to increaed prices
No, for example regulations restricting the supply of labor of doctors is one of the main reason why prices are very high.

But saying again " like I said it's less about competition but more about reducing the regulatory burdens."

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ But it was only through the current system and with increased regulation could we get marginal transparency

We don't have it *yet*, although it's much more nuanced than that. The one Trump is preoposing hasn't been implemented *and* it could be negative in terms of effects.

However if it isn't negative it'll yield the same effects, almost, as my free market system in this regard.

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ I’m not against opening up restrictions on the supply of doctors but some regulation like the one I mentioned about price transparanct is essential

Or we could just go to a private system where prices are more transparent, that solves it without any regulation(that could be harmful)

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ How can the free market work if no one knows the prices of operations

They do, that's the point. In a market system prices would be more transparent, due to the abolishment of the complex third party payer insurance system.

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ Insurance isn’t the problem for minimal price transparency, it’s hospitals

Actually it's related, it's called the "third party payer system"

I have to go so I'll give you a link if you want to read more about it.

And do you genuinely think that out of the goodness of their heart in a system with decreased regulation that hospitals would release prices

Ok, this was a really nice discussion

A bit of a read of part of my plan https://www.hoover.org/research/how-cure-health-care-0
@The Meme Lord

https://youtu.be/bspXPvDyxF4

https://soundcloud.com/vallisfloodplain/nice-till-were-not

https://youtu.be/AhZ5syg8Huo

Despite making up 13% of the population...

Race issues?

Just quit being racist

smh

Facts

@Snubbi Let's talk here, the thing I'm for is a private healthcare system fully.

I think the US is well equipped to handle the Coronavirus though, infact it's the best prepared in the world.

ye but you should consider the problem

3000 $ for a corona test

imagine all the homeless people in new york

or youre sick and cant do it because you arent able because yo uhave less money

I think we should have a mix of both, like we do now, but just move the standards to lower income so people who really can’t afford coverage actually get coverage

Coronavirus tests are free for people who have insurance.

And it doesn't cost *that much*

they are free period

in the united states at least

by government mandate

really but at the start it wasnt

only for like the first couple of weeks