Message from @Techpriest

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2019-05-29 15:51:04 UTC  

Whereas if labor produced an adequate amount, an economic depression hurts less

2019-05-29 15:51:19 UTC  

yea this is all based on old models where we had factories and shit

2019-05-29 15:51:19 UTC  

So, what you described has already happened many times prior.

2019-05-29 15:51:27 UTC  

how does this work with a modern service economy

2019-05-29 15:51:32 UTC  

Which is exactly the point

2019-05-29 15:51:39 UTC  

It has happened many times yet socialism does not prevail during these times

2019-05-29 15:51:42 UTC  

That's why you have to look at continuations of Marxism, Marx is not the end all be all

2019-05-29 15:51:46 UTC  

Instead Marx says it happens in good times

2019-05-29 15:51:57 UTC  

Where the people feel capital is earning TOO MUCH

2019-05-29 15:52:01 UTC  

and then starts to have angry thoughts

2019-05-29 15:52:02 UTC  

Show a source of such please

2019-05-29 15:52:03 UTC  

oh hmmm

2019-05-29 15:52:08 UTC  

then what revolution?

2019-05-29 15:52:26 UTC  

Wdym what revolution??

2019-05-29 15:52:57 UTC  

you know

2019-05-29 15:53:04 UTC  

seize the means of production

2019-05-29 15:53:18 UTC  

violently

2019-05-29 15:54:19 UTC  

```
What I did that was new was to prove:
(1) that the existence of this class struggle is only bound up with particular industrial development
(2) that this class struggle exist in an era of good times
(3) and that this class struggle shall soon prevail in the dictatorship of the proletariat
```
--Marx's Letter to a Friend (1852)

2019-05-29 15:55:07 UTC  

altho prob shit translation

2019-05-29 15:55:11 UTC  

since it is english and not german

2019-05-29 15:55:33 UTC  

And Marx make sense in that point

2019-05-29 15:55:42 UTC  

How can a class struggle exist if everyone in society is suffering?

2019-05-29 15:57:27 UTC  

So from #2 I believe he means that it can happen in either as he supported what had occurred during the French Revolution.

2019-05-29 15:59:09 UTC  

Pre-French Revolution was good times?

2019-05-29 16:00:18 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/513098448640278539/583323747222814720/unknown.png

2019-05-29 16:00:35 UTC  

Besides didn't you say capitalism started after the end of feudalism

2019-05-29 16:01:26 UTC  

Instead only socialism begin to happen during the 1950s

2019-05-29 16:01:27 UTC  

lets be real

2019-05-29 16:01:54 UTC  

America was afraid of several worker's unions but could not keep them suppressed as they did before during the 1910s and 1920s

2019-05-29 16:02:00 UTC  

This was only during an economy of good times

2019-05-29 16:02:05 UTC  

You had medicare

2019-05-29 16:02:08 UTC  

Social Security expansion

2019-05-29 16:02:26 UTC  

The economy boomed during the 1950s

2019-05-29 16:02:47 UTC  

and thus the upper management could afford to give "more power to appease the people"

2019-05-29 19:00:49 UTC  

**free market**: 1. An [economic system] where [in theory] goods and services are determined by [supply and demand].
2. A common term for the items outside of charity bins.
3. A store where you can take items free of charge (they usually ask that you leave something you no longer need behind.)
*1. [Socialists] tend to laude free market economies.
2. I found this awesome chair at the free market by [Salvation Army].
3. I dropped some old [pots and pans] off at the free market.*
*(<http://free-market.urbanup.com/6785142>)* *9 more results*

2019-05-29 21:17:02 UTC  

Two things, I stated the French Revolution fact as a means of showing he did not always believe that revolution would come from the good times and that most likely he had meant something other when stating that. Second your statement is not contradictory to Capitalism starting after Feudalism, Socialism began way before the 1950's and Capitalism arose in the 1690's after the English Civil War ended English Feudalism. You at no point argued against me saying Capitalism came after Feudalism

2019-05-29 23:47:15 UTC  

this was weeks ago lmao

2019-05-29 23:47:46 UTC  

oh wait

2019-05-29 23:47:48 UTC  

wrong dude

2019-05-31 03:06:27 UTC  

Why do socialist want to steal my wealth?

2019-05-31 06:43:34 UTC  

how much wealth do you have? @lemonsaw