Message from @Deleted User

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2019-06-05 06:52:07 UTC  

Even under their Liberal government, the economy had issues developing. There's a variety of issues for this, one of them is low quality coal and coal production. *"Another frequent explanation for the slow transformation of industry is the high cost of energy. Spain’s coal was of poor quality, and mining and transport costs were high. As a result, per caput consumption was around 300 kilos in 1900, against over 3 tonnes in Belgium or Germany, or 4 tonnes in the UK."*

And other things, such as low exports. *"The success of Spanish industry in increasing output and productivity
for the domestic market was not matched in exporting. Whereas over the
period 1830-90 the economy became increasingly open, with exports
growing from the equivalent of 2.9 per cent of national income to 13.4
per cent, they then declined to just 7.7 per cent in 1930, a significantly
lower figure than that recorded by most other European countries."*

We also see the suspension of gold standard, though controversial, as a reason given: *"The most controversial feature of monetary policy was the suspension of the convertibility of gold in 1883. According to Martı´n-Acen˜ a, Spain became isolated from the growing international financial markets and the quantity of foreign capital entering the country declined sharply after 1883, leading to ‘one of the lowest rates of industrialization in Western Europe’ prior to 1914."*

2019-06-05 06:52:15 UTC  

They had low populations, shity soil, bad geography, there are many reasons

2019-06-05 06:53:04 UTC  

Hell, economists even blame the governments lack of spending in the private economy.- *"Of perhaps greater importance was the failure of government to increase
domestic capital formation. Although government spending as a share of
GDP rose from 6 per cent in 1850 to 10 per cent in 1929, a large part
of the budget was devoted to administration, defence, and the public
debt.5"*

2019-06-05 06:53:31 UTC  

Should be noted that most innovation today come from government funded private industries, so this makes sense

2019-06-05 06:53:39 UTC  

Government spending can be a good impact on the economy

2019-06-05 06:53:40 UTC  

GPS and Apple phones being to examples

2019-06-05 06:53:51 UTC  

Yea, It can

2019-06-05 06:54:05 UTC  

Remember when I said that Hitler's accomplishments were based on increased aggregate spending?

2019-06-05 06:54:14 UTC  

I already know this shit

2019-06-05 06:54:27 UTC  

Well, I assumed that a libertarian would be against that

2019-06-05 06:55:20 UTC  

Fair enough

2019-06-05 06:55:27 UTC  

I'm a moderate

2019-06-05 06:57:59 UTC  

Also, in regards to protectionism, I'm neither in favor of complete protectionism nor am I in favor of a complete free-trade economy. I favor selective tariffs.

2019-06-05 06:59:37 UTC  

Meaning, I only favor protectionist policies in the agricultural sector (Natural minerals and Farming) due to the nature of this sector as a unmoving and established deposit.

2019-06-05 12:49:10 UTC  

I mean I guess

2019-06-05 12:50:00 UTC  

@Deleted User Tariffs are just monopolies created by the state to favor selective businesses over others, lol

2019-06-05 12:50:09 UTC  

Very possible

2019-06-05 12:50:19 UTC  

Opinions On Cooperate welfare?

2019-06-05 12:50:22 UTC  

It's terrible

2019-06-05 12:50:41 UTC  

corporate welfare will exist as long as the state exists

2019-06-05 14:28:17 UTC  

@Leiro レイロ
At least it's a democratized monopoly

2019-06-05 14:28:28 UTC  

Can't say the same about big business.

2019-06-05 14:28:35 UTC  

Food stamps got america out of the great recession. Providing resources to the lower class is the biggest way to stimulate the economy. We need to stop the stigma that economic government aid is bad. Why does everybody hate the idea of welfare unless it aids the rich?

2019-06-05 14:33:45 UTC  

@shimmy
He said Corporate welfare.

2019-06-05 14:33:51 UTC  

Meaning, government handouts to big business

2019-06-05 14:34:23 UTC  

Which especially the Democratic party is notorious for doing.

2019-06-05 14:34:50 UTC  

At least the Republican party seeks to limit government by reducing taxes, the democrats goes over and directly suck off the dick of big business.

2019-06-05 14:34:50 UTC  

GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 8!

2019-06-05 14:35:16 UTC  

The Democrats are Corportocratic.

2019-06-05 14:36:30 UTC  

Limiting big businesses influence by limiting government intervention into the economy is far preferable to a welfare state where big business controls the government.

2019-06-05 15:12:13 UTC  

ok nerd

2019-06-05 15:14:54 UTC  

sounds like propaganda but ok

2019-06-05 22:12:45 UTC  

everybody knows

2019-06-05 22:12:51 UTC  

The Democrats are cringed and bluepilled

2019-06-05 22:13:05 UTC  

I don't know how they even try to make the economy prosper.

2019-06-05 22:13:27 UTC  

A college-educated workforce doesn't equate to a higher income to be taxable

2019-06-05 22:48:56 UTC  

@Deleted User what democracy?

2019-06-05 22:49:08 UTC  

your vote dosent matter at all

2019-06-05 22:50:07 UTC  

a monopoly is still a monopoly, whether you brush it with colourful words like "democratic".

2019-06-05 22:50:08 UTC  

GG @Leiro レイロ, you just advanced to level 1!

2019-06-06 03:48:53 UTC  

@shimmy When you can't tell the difference between Corporate Welfare and regular Welfare