Message from @Mr1Gonzalez

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2019-07-25 11:44:04 UTC  

unless you live very frugally

2019-07-25 11:46:00 UTC  

But why not? Why not have the minimum be something that lets you live - again, everyone's definition of "comfortable" is different, but surely there are some basics that aren't hard to agree upon

2019-07-25 11:47:37 UTC  

Isn't it sadistic to have somebody work hard all day, and not be able to support themselves?

2019-07-25 11:48:28 UTC  

Stop imagining the lazy guy who wants to work as little as possible and wants to just "squeeze by" with handouts

2019-07-25 11:48:52 UTC  

Much more typical is the HARD WORKER who works 40+ hours per week

2019-07-25 11:49:14 UTC  

Why doesn't he deserve a comfortable life?

2019-07-25 11:49:51 UTC  

Oh y’all went on a ramble for hours, but now I’m home

2019-07-25 11:49:51 UTC  

He's not working any less than other people! In fact, many of those jobs are harder and require MORE work

2019-07-25 11:49:57 UTC  

Yea minimum wage is dumb

2019-07-25 11:50:09 UTC  

Alright, say something smart now.

2019-07-25 11:51:13 UTC  

You're religious too, so I know this is going to be Good and Smart.

2019-07-25 11:56:28 UTC  

Well. If you calculate your expenses per month or even per year, you’ll know what you need to be making. This is simply done with planning ahead, something that should be taught in schools. Something that I do to this day. I know how much I make minus taxes and then use that income to pay all my bills. If a citizen is struggling to make ends meet, he simply did not prepare. (Let’s excuse medical bills because that is a universal healthcare debate I’m not going to get into here.) let’s take a healthy young male today. There is no reason why that male needs to be on food stamps when he is working full time making $11 per hour. Trust me I used to be in the same position making only $8 and still had $500 a month of just throwaway money.
With this being said, you use that to move up and gain experience. If you’re still making only $11 an hour when you’re 40 years old, you didn’t prepare correctly.
***Now let’s remove minimum wage.***
Take that same male and put him in a place that pays $3 per hour.. the male says he can’t pay his bills and every employee leaves that company and works for another one that pays more. This eventually keeps going on its own until all bills can be paid for. = Unenforced minimum wages based on the household needs

2019-07-25 11:56:50 UTC  

Please if you’re going to respond, plan accordingly.

2019-07-25 11:58:33 UTC  

Where did you live, where $11 per hour was your wage, and your living conditions seemed adequate to you - with $500 of throwaway money too! What was your rent? What modern amenities did you have (TV, PC with fast internet, etc)?

2019-07-25 11:58:59 UTC  

Oh oops, you made $8

2019-07-25 11:59:22 UTC  

So tell me. And also, WHEN was this. Because inflation 😉

2019-07-25 11:59:56 UTC  

Texas, I was getting paid $8 per hour, and living in a studio apartment for $400 a month. I had an average honda for a car and even went to community college and paid for it. I did this for a year and a half.

2019-07-25 12:00:08 UTC  

And this was about 2012

2019-07-25 12:00:19 UTC  

So the inflation isn’t that high

2019-07-25 12:00:56 UTC  

11.6% to be exact

2019-07-25 12:01:35 UTC  

I would need to get paid $9 today to do the exact same thing

2019-07-25 12:02:19 UTC  

400 for rent is obscenely low for the vast majority of the country.

2019-07-25 12:02:29 UTC  

But okay I will ignore inflation in fact. 8 * 40 * 4 = 1280. 400 in rent, so you're left with 880

2019-07-25 12:02:34 UTC  

Like I said, make it based on what the household needs

2019-07-25 12:02:48 UTC  

But wait, what about your taxes?

2019-07-25 12:02:51 UTC  

Not $15 flat rate throughout the country

2019-07-25 12:03:02 UTC  

How much did you take home after taxes

2019-07-25 12:03:11 UTC  

Uhhhhhhh

2019-07-25 12:03:15 UTC  

Let me calc

2019-07-25 12:03:46 UTC  

I'm fact checking you, with your DISGUSTING 400/mo rent that isn't at all realistic unless you live in bumfuck nowhere

2019-07-25 12:03:59 UTC  

Nah I lived in the city

2019-07-25 12:04:05 UTC  

Looking up Texas studios right now.

2019-07-25 12:04:11 UTC  

Seeing MUCH higher prices than that

2019-07-25 12:04:18 UTC  

twice to three times as much

2019-07-25 12:04:20 UTC  

I’ll show you exactly where since you’re trying to call me out lmao

2019-07-25 12:04:23 UTC  

Yes of course

2019-07-25 12:04:26 UTC  

So maybe you got a REALLY good deal?

2019-07-25 12:04:26 UTC  

But planning

2019-07-25 12:04:34 UTC  

I just did my research

2019-07-25 12:04:40 UTC  

Uh huh

2019-07-25 12:05:07 UTC  

If everyone would be smart and do their "research", they could also get 400/mo rent in a comfortable studio in the city.