Message from @Mr1Gonzalez
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unless you live very frugally
But why not? Why not have the minimum be something that lets you live - again, everyone's definition of "comfortable" is different, but surely there are some basics that aren't hard to agree upon
Isn't it sadistic to have somebody work hard all day, and not be able to support themselves?
Stop imagining the lazy guy who wants to work as little as possible and wants to just "squeeze by" with handouts
Much more typical is the HARD WORKER who works 40+ hours per week
Why doesn't he deserve a comfortable life?
Oh y’all went on a ramble for hours, but now I’m home
He's not working any less than other people! In fact, many of those jobs are harder and require MORE work
Yea minimum wage is dumb
Alright, say something smart now.
You're religious too, so I know this is going to be Good and Smart.
Well. If you calculate your expenses per month or even per year, you’ll know what you need to be making. This is simply done with planning ahead, something that should be taught in schools. Something that I do to this day. I know how much I make minus taxes and then use that income to pay all my bills. If a citizen is struggling to make ends meet, he simply did not prepare. (Let’s excuse medical bills because that is a universal healthcare debate I’m not going to get into here.) let’s take a healthy young male today. There is no reason why that male needs to be on food stamps when he is working full time making $11 per hour. Trust me I used to be in the same position making only $8 and still had $500 a month of just throwaway money.
With this being said, you use that to move up and gain experience. If you’re still making only $11 an hour when you’re 40 years old, you didn’t prepare correctly.
***Now let’s remove minimum wage.***
Take that same male and put him in a place that pays $3 per hour.. the male says he can’t pay his bills and every employee leaves that company and works for another one that pays more. This eventually keeps going on its own until all bills can be paid for. = Unenforced minimum wages based on the household needs
Please if you’re going to respond, plan accordingly.
Where did you live, where $11 per hour was your wage, and your living conditions seemed adequate to you - with $500 of throwaway money too! What was your rent? What modern amenities did you have (TV, PC with fast internet, etc)?
Oh oops, you made $8
So tell me. And also, WHEN was this. Because inflation 😉
Texas, I was getting paid $8 per hour, and living in a studio apartment for $400 a month. I had an average honda for a car and even went to community college and paid for it. I did this for a year and a half.
And this was about 2012
So the inflation isn’t that high
11.6% to be exact
400 for rent is obscenely low for the vast majority of the country.
But okay I will ignore inflation in fact. 8 * 40 * 4 = 1280. 400 in rent, so you're left with 880
Like I said, make it based on what the household needs
But wait, what about your taxes?
Not $15 flat rate throughout the country
How much did you take home after taxes
Uhhhhhhh
Let me calc
I'm fact checking you, with your DISGUSTING 400/mo rent that isn't at all realistic unless you live in bumfuck nowhere
Nah I lived in the city
Looking up Texas studios right now.
Seeing MUCH higher prices than that
twice to three times as much
I’ll show you exactly where since you’re trying to call me out lmao
Yes of course
So maybe you got a REALLY good deal?
But planning
I just did my research
Uh huh
If everyone would be smart and do their "research", they could also get 400/mo rent in a comfortable studio in the city.