like when an economist says "lets just assume people are rational"

this is a ridiculous starting point for a theory

@Pelth ehmm.. you are a socialist, and you're talking about economic theories being bs?

they are pretty much all based on certain assumptions being true without evidence.

at least the mainstream ones

there are plenty of heterodox schools which actually start with empirical data as their assumption

which makes it far more accurate to describe reality

it also comes down to personal taste as well

because humans are adaptable and they can adapt to all kinds of warped realities if they need to

A huge problem with mainstream economics is it almost assumes infinite extractable resources. Or at least that all resources can be effectively substituted.

It supports a devouring swarm mentality

The logical conclusion from this line of thinking would be a barren world incapable of supporting life.

Here is the deal, you say that, and that is great.

But then turn around and talk about social politics in a very tunnel vision way.

Well most of social politics comes down to this matter of taste.

@Pelth please take that to <#523834972126052352>

Decadence usually involves irresponsible consumption of resources though. So the liberal ideology is inherently destructive

@Pelth please take that to <#523834972126052352>

I don’t see how that’s a better location at all

Philosophical things go there

Thank you

@LOL asking him to go to <#523834972126052352> is, in itself, a philosophical observation of what he said

So, ask him to move there, in there.

Holy shit I'm a hypocrite.

Fuck

I don’t see how what I’m talking about could not be an economic issue

@Pelth he's trolling

@Pelth There are different takes on liberalism. Classical, European, or U.S raped liberalism.

Social and Economic

I thought U.S. raped liberalism was neo classical liberalism?

Kind of. Bernie even raped the term Democratic-Socialism, now everyone thinks Decsoc is Social-Democracy...

Amazing, the human interpretations of widely known vocabulary.

Well it’s because words can have broad interpretations

Well, Homo Sapiens has "wise" in it, so idk if you could call them that..<:honk:583238347124637707>

Depends on how you interpret wisdom

semantics is an interesting subject.. and I hate it.

demsoc vs socdem

Cant figure out the difference

Same thing

I am a United Statian

A national socialist is the same as a socialist nationalist for example