Message from @Oishya

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2019-11-18 02:55:49 UTC  

I learned a lot from Taleb, I would assume he knows more than me on things in the economic domain

2019-11-18 02:56:04 UTC  

I understand his position on Trump. I had a different priority

2019-11-18 02:56:42 UTC  

I'm asking you to explain his position

2019-11-18 02:56:52 UTC  

Dad I'm just trying to learn

2019-11-18 02:57:32 UTC  

On Trump, basically he wasn't flustered by the 'noise' as he called it, and just focused on the populism, Trump's animosity to 'business as usual' technocrats, etc

2019-11-18 02:57:52 UTC  

Policy wise though

2019-11-18 02:58:07 UTC  

He assumed correctly the Trump campaign was a cynical attempt to buy votes and that the actual policies would be much more moderate, which was true in many ways

2019-11-18 02:58:24 UTC  

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2019-11-18 02:58:35 UTC  

Foreign policy he was hoping for much of that pull-out strategy, yet to be seen

2019-11-18 02:58:48 UTC  

I knew that was not going to happen based on his advisors

2019-11-18 02:59:14 UTC  

McMullin wasn't any better there, but at least he wouldn't be a foreign operative, something I suspected about Clinton and Trump

2019-11-18 02:59:55 UTC  

This reads like a Tom Clancy novel

2019-11-18 03:00:00 UTC  

Taleb misjudged Trump on one of the most important tail risks he cares about, the environment

2019-11-18 03:00:15 UTC  

I dont see how corporate and upper class tax cuts de leverage institutions large enough to need social bail outs (his whole point in antifragile, black swan and his most recent book)

2019-11-18 03:00:25 UTC  

He didnt misjudge trump, he ignored that tail risk

2019-11-18 03:01:23 UTC  

I can't quite parse that

2019-11-18 03:01:34 UTC  

Additionally please explain how pro corporate actions in the part of the FTC, just to name one trump stacked agency, lead to derisked institutions. The support of hegemony and monopoly seems counter to everything taleb said

2019-11-18 03:02:12 UTC  

Trump has only one real legislative achievement and has done nothing economically but cut taxes and deregulate corporations

2019-11-18 03:02:12 UTC  

Trump hasn't done anything on that front, things are worse and probably getter worser fasterer

2019-11-18 03:02:21 UTC  

Getter worser

2019-11-18 03:02:26 UTC  

Okay we are done here :)

2019-11-18 03:02:58 UTC  

Trump hasnt cut taxes is a bold stance

2019-11-18 03:03:16 UTC  

As is claiming he hasnt deregulated industries

2019-11-18 03:03:17 UTC  

Nice try

2019-11-18 03:03:18 UTC  

There was a tax cut for some, a tax raise for others

2019-11-18 03:03:26 UTC  

SALT deduction change was a tax raise on some

2019-11-18 03:04:16 UTC  

Doubly, the pressure on the fed to lower rates puts us in a situation where recession mandates fiscal, as opposed to monetary policy. Essentially mandating corporate bail outs

2019-11-18 03:04:22 UTC  

Fuck taleb and fuck trump

2019-11-18 03:04:30 UTC  

I'm not a fan of the Trump policies so I can't really explain why they were taken, but I suppose they could argue the corporate tax repatriation could have been used to pay off some debt, but I haven't seen numbers on those effects beyond the lack of wage growth

2019-11-18 03:04:56 UTC  

Fiscal policy is a given, no matter what the Fed does

2019-11-18 03:05:00 UTC  

Repatriation =/= taxable

2019-11-18 03:05:05 UTC  

That's the point if repatriation

2019-11-18 03:05:11 UTC  

That why it was not repatriated

2019-11-18 03:05:19 UTC  

Cool beans though

2019-11-18 03:07:30 UTC  

Part of Trump's explanation for the TCJA was to encourage overseas held corporate money to come back, hence the reduction to 21%

2019-11-18 03:12:40 UTC  

```Before the new tax law, companies kept much of their overseas profit offshore to avoid a 35% tax that kicked in when they brought the money back to the U.S. The Republican tax law set a one-time 15.5% tax rate on cash and 8% on non-cash or illiquid assets, regardless of where the profits sat.```

2019-11-18 03:12:44 UTC  

```Corporations brought $100.2 billion of overseas profits back to the U.S. in the first quarter, marking $876.8 billion that has returned since Congress overhauled the international tax system and prodded companies to repatriate more.

The cash that has come back to the U.S. falls short of the $4 trillion President Donald Trump said would return as a result of the 2017 tax law. Investment banks and think tanks have estimated that U.S. corporations actually held $1.5 trillion to $2.5 trillion in offshore funds at the time the law was enacted.```

2019-11-18 03:13:08 UTC  

Not as much as promised, but some of that is repatriation

2019-11-18 03:18:20 UTC  

it didn't translate to much wage growth, it mostly went to buybacks, so it was a silly gimmick to pump the stock market if anything

2019-11-18 03:24:06 UTC  

So Taleb applauds Trump for trying to avoid war with Iran. I think destroying the nuclear deal with Iran was on the right path to that anyway so 2 steps back, 1 step forward on that one