Message from @Islamic Straight

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2020-01-26 05:32:00 UTC  

I see a place for it

2020-01-26 05:32:44 UTC  

last of those political tests I took I ended up around here

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/665554909134848000/670863676256813056/papablessl.png

2020-01-26 05:32:44 UTC  

do you support legalizing certain drugs?

2020-01-26 05:32:53 UTC  

ahh

2020-01-26 05:33:21 UTC  

tbh I support legalizing all drugs with a means of oversight regulating them to make them safer for people to use, and if possible setting up something from our past like shamans or safe places for people to try them

2020-01-26 05:33:39 UTC  

Black markets help nobody, they harm millions of lives either directly or indirectly

2020-01-26 05:34:06 UTC  

People are going to do things if they want to do them, and we should have systems in place to allow people to do them safely

2020-01-26 05:34:45 UTC  

Ruining lives because someone has some mushrooms in a bag, or because someone tested positive for a plant is absurdity

2020-01-26 05:37:25 UTC  

i wouldnt support it but not because it has track records of black markets rising or one person dies from drugs and everyone is to blame kinda stuff

I just support regulation like raising age to smoke or drink but with a penalty like if searching for a job youd have to list that you smoke or drink since jobs would want a more clean person but they could still be eligible

2020-01-26 05:38:09 UTC  

I can understand that point, but from a personal liberty viewpoint Ive done plenty of drugs in the past, harmed no one, used responsibly and I see it as a benefit to people

2020-01-26 05:38:21 UTC  

Black markets exists because people feed them

2020-01-26 05:38:28 UTC  

Legalizing won't make it better

2020-01-26 05:38:36 UTC  

Just look at what's happening in the Netherlands

2020-01-26 05:38:42 UTC  

They became a narcostate

2020-01-26 05:38:49 UTC  

The weed black market still exists yes, have a friend who is working in it

2020-01-26 05:39:09 UTC  

But its minimalized and the decriminalization aspect allows for support programs that couldnt exist otherwise

2020-01-26 05:39:20 UTC  

Kids drink alcohol and smoke cigs anyway, they find ways to do it

2020-01-26 05:39:29 UTC  

but lifting stigmas and offering support is the key bit

2020-01-26 05:39:36 UTC  

People kill anyways, let's legalize murder

2020-01-26 05:39:43 UTC  

And your friend is a drug dealer

2020-01-26 05:39:45 UTC  

A criminal

2020-01-26 05:39:48 UTC  

he sure is

2020-01-26 05:39:52 UTC  

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2020-01-26 05:40:20 UTC  

So better care for the people you are friends with

2020-01-26 05:40:31 UTC  

I again disagree, personal liberty

2020-01-26 05:40:46 UTC  

No one has the personal liberty to commit a crime

2020-01-26 05:40:52 UTC  

If we allow alcohol and tobacco to be legal, then we must acknowledge other compounds people have been using for thousands of years

2020-01-26 05:41:20 UTC  

my limit is no abolishment of drugs but rather offer big funds for reform programs like drug abuse victims

2020-01-26 05:41:23 UTC  

> No one has the personal liberty to commit a crime

***If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.***

2020-01-26 05:41:38 UTC  

@DangerErin I can support that

2020-01-26 05:41:43 UTC  

That's beautiful and everything, but laws exist for a reason

2020-01-26 05:42:00 UTC  

Otherwise, whether a law is unjust or not is just the opinion of that person

2020-01-26 05:42:32 UTC  

What makes you believe you're right about drug laws being unjust but a pedophile that think laws against CP ain't?

2020-01-26 05:42:38 UTC  

Depends on the laws tbh, many have roots in issues, others are based purely in emotion not in logic

The drug war has not been a success, its been a colossal waste of funds, when it should be targeting those who truly violate federal law and harm people, and putting in systems to support users and making it safe for people

instead it punishes everyone and costs everyone

2020-01-26 05:43:08 UTC  

Again, it doesn't work because there's always people like you and your friend fueling it

2020-01-26 05:43:28 UTC  

The legalization of marijuana has shown that lax laws and decriminalization allow funding of proper support systems

2020-01-26 05:43:30 UTC  

Libertarians love to claim the drug war doesn't work, while pumping those criminals with money

2020-01-26 05:44:17 UTC  

Even if you support legalization, the very least you could do is to not fuel crime by buying illegal drugs

2020-01-26 05:44:35 UTC  

If you think we should ban something like pot, then you must claim we ban something like alcohol or tobacco

We have decades of evidence showing the detrimental effects of both of them, and the decades of research into marijuana show far less side effects

2020-01-26 05:44:45 UTC  

I do lmao

2020-01-26 05:44:54 UTC  

Then thats fine