Message from @Roland Delacroix
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In Spain, the average pensioner starts getting more money than he ever gave to the government THIRTEEN years after retirement (age 78 if you worked until you're 65, the legal limit)
Imagine if you could kill a few thousand old people with some shitty virus
Pensioners should get exactly what they gave + interest.
At least if we're talking about govt. pensions.
In most countries, you get money until you're dead, which means the current life expectancy is making pensions entirely unsustainable
We can't stop the spread, best we can do is slow the spread so our hospitals can keep up
Which is what every medical pro has been saying
Pensions were designed for most people to die BEFORE they ever see a cent and the rest to die at like 75
Now we're seeing A LOT of people in their 80s and 90s, the system is NOT sustainable at all
A big part of the pension problem is politicians raiding the funds to pay for gimmiedats
Pensions were designed for higher fertility rates.
The solution is not mass immigration either, legal or illegal.
@Roland Delacroix - Nah, man, remember the stat I told just a couple of minutes ago: in Spain, you're making the government lose money the moment you start your 14th year as a pensioner
A fuckton of people are retiring at age 60, then living to like 85-90
They are raising retirement age soon btw, so this will help.
But they are raising too slowly.
65 to 67 over 22 years?
Should be 65 yo 67 in 5 years.
@christiam - The system in Spain makes some people able to retire earlier than the limit (65). If you've worked consecutively all your life, you can retire at like 58-60
Some people wait till 65 because their pension is gonna be SMALLER than their current salary but a lot retire early
Or should be
Nah, depends on your previous jobs
Very rarely you get someone who worked the system
If you used to have positions of power and now you don't, it can happen that your pension is gonna be HIGHER than your final salary
Why would you need more money when retired? You have non-work related costs
Pensions are usually some percentage of your ending salary, like 60%
In Spain it's calculated using your jobs of like the final 15 years plus the amount of days you've worked full-time and part-time
Right, and you get like 20% of that 3x a year or something
No, here it's monthly
TRUMP ALREADY WON 2020
>picturing FDR next to Hitler and Stalin
mfw republicans disavow lincoln and teddy
Ironically, it was both Roosevelts who saved American capitalism. Even Tucker Carlson admitted this
Lincoln killed a shitton of Americans and Teddy was a socialist, soooooo
War is war, and people get killed.
roosevelt was epic