Message from @Roland Delacroix
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@christiam you can't stop it guy, nothing can. Two weeks contagious with no symptoms can't be solved in the modern world
We can find a vaccine, test it for 2 years, and take 1-2 years spooling up production
Or power through, suck up the 15% fatality rate among 70+ year olds
Sorry Boomers
False, we are a modernized nation capable of taking drastic measures.
Forced symptom checking at checkpoints, shops on the streets.
China is a shithole, yet they took drastic measures. Given they wouldn't have, coronavirus would've infected a lot more than just 70,000.
The most authoritarian nation in the world, who has no qualms killing anyone and everyone if necessary, with advanced electronic surveillance everywhere and absolute control over population movement couldn't stop it
It would've been worse if they hadn't responded in the way they did.
look at Iran.
They have a near 50% fatality rate overall, and the disease is spreading rapidly.
So, with all that power they couldn't stop it, but in the west you expect us to?
They significantly slowed it.
Part of the cost of freedom is increased risk, in the west we decided that was a good trade
It still is
Muh freedom to be infected.
Sorry, we need government protection against a highly deadly virus.
My parents could die in their 80's now due to coronavirus
So stopping disease is communist.
Lmao
We need to prevent this disease from spreading like it did in China, at all costs.
It's easy to criticize but noone wants to develop solutions
If anything, dead grandpas would help commies (millions saved in unpaid pensions)
The solution is pretty simple, impose extensive checking of infected areas.
There're already jokes on how countries like France and Spain want Coronavirus to run wild so they save a few hundred millions
Unless you want to be like Italy, where the government is doing jack, and they are paying the price.
There is an economic incentive to slow the spread as well, to prevent market panic.
In Spain, the average pensioner starts getting more money than he ever gave to the government THIRTEEN years after retirement (age 78 if you worked until you're 65, the legal limit)
Imagine if you could kill a few thousand old people with some shitty virus
Pensioners should get exactly what they gave + interest.
At least if we're talking about govt. pensions.
In most countries, you get money until you're dead, which means the current life expectancy is making pensions entirely unsustainable
We can't stop the spread, best we can do is slow the spread so our hospitals can keep up
Which is what every medical pro has been saying
Pensions were designed for most people to die BEFORE they ever see a cent and the rest to die at like 75
Now we're seeing A LOT of people in their 80s and 90s, the system is NOT sustainable at all
A big part of the pension problem is politicians raiding the funds to pay for gimmiedats
Pensions were designed for higher fertility rates.