Message from @christiam
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Treason is defined as levying war against the United States.
Roosevelt was pretty cool
It's not treason to kick out an invading army from another country
So what did the CSA do by declaring independence, attacking Fort Sumter, and continuing the civil war against America?
Defend their borders?
Treason
Imagine believing in secession anyway.
"destroying america to own the libs"
It happened
So not hard to believe in
*believing in the right to secede.
And despite what any law might decree, allowing free secession would result in total anarchy.
Like, when the satellite states left the USSR?
In the United States.
Comparing satellite states to the Confederacy is gay.
Donald Trump is a good man.
Secession should only be legal in Europe, that's your contention?
Satellite states were nations which each had a unique cultural identity. The Soviet Union actively oppressed them through physical means as well.
You are saying the South did not have a cultural identity different from the North?
It's also a joke that you decry "Make America Great Again!", while also defending a secession which could've dismantled the United States as a whole.
Ok, well, either you're arguing in bad faith or ignorant of the sociopolitics of the era, not meant to be Ad Hominem, I simply don't see any point going on here
Perhaps because you've provided non-examples. Imagine comparing a brutal communist regime to the Union in the 1800s.
The southern states weren't "satellite states". They were simply discontent because the Southern aristocracy were mad that their institution of slavery was being slowly made useless by industrialization.
jannie got lost in my belly button and I had to use the Valium as bait to get them to come back out
It's a bit more complicated than that, I encourage others to do more reading into the economic and political relations between N and S, very interesting
There was also the fact that they were harming US industry by trying to sell most of their stuff to Britain instead
In a sense, the Civil War was our version of what other nations' communist revolutions did
Took power from the agrarian elite and cemented that of the industrialists
It was partially a war about the transfer of power from aristocratic slave-owners to industrialists.
The aristocratic class inherited the majority of their wealth from their forefathers, so they were barely adept at business themselves. On the contrary, industrialists were more intelligent and self-built.
Is there any way we can cut a lot of the memes on thedonal.win? The memes are great and all, but I would love to see more news curation and wikileaks-document-dump-esque content
The value of TD was in the community curating the news vs accepting MSM fake news
Memes certainly have their place, but .win seems too meme saturated
@Dubra What else should be posted??
@Dubra I agree, I love me some Meme pie but sometimes too much is too much. I'd like to see a balance between delicious meme pies and news about anything. That's why I visit T_D daily until it got locked down.
Do you see the <#675441441677377570> channel?