Message from @christiam

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2020-03-01 21:18:10 UTC  

Lincoln killed a shitton of Americans and Teddy was a socialist, soooooo

2020-03-01 21:19:07 UTC  

War is war, and people get killed.

2020-03-01 21:19:20 UTC  

roosevelt was epic

2020-03-01 21:19:27 UTC  

The war, started by the attack on Fort Sumter.

2020-03-01 21:19:59 UTC  

Granted, Teddy was a socialist before the 200+ million deaths lessons of the 20th century

2020-03-01 21:20:06 UTC  

only retards like glenn beck dislike roosevelt

2020-03-01 21:20:19 UTC  

You mean the Northern occupied fort in the South?

2020-03-01 21:20:37 UTC  

the American fort in America

2020-03-01 21:20:46 UTC  

Should have applied for making it an embassy :D

So...

All you commie weebs gtfo

2020-03-01 21:21:32 UTC  

Treason is defined as levying war against the United States.

2020-03-01 21:21:49 UTC  

Roosevelt was pretty cool

2020-03-01 21:22:11 UTC  

It's not treason to kick out an invading army from another country

2020-03-01 21:22:14 UTC  

So what did the CSA do by declaring independence, attacking Fort Sumter, and continuing the civil war against America?

2020-03-01 21:22:40 UTC  

Defend their borders?

2020-03-01 21:22:45 UTC  

Treason

2020-03-01 21:23:44 UTC  

Imagine believing in secession anyway.

2020-03-01 21:23:52 UTC  

"destroying america to own the libs"

2020-03-01 21:23:58 UTC  

It happened

2020-03-01 21:24:07 UTC  

So not hard to believe in

2020-03-01 21:24:23 UTC  

*believing in the right to secede.

2020-03-01 21:25:15 UTC  

And despite what any law might decree, allowing free secession would result in total anarchy.

2020-03-01 21:25:15 UTC  

Like, when the satellite states left the USSR?

2020-03-01 21:25:25 UTC  

In the United States.

2020-03-01 21:25:38 UTC  

Comparing satellite states to the Confederacy is gay.

2020-03-01 21:25:54 UTC  

Donald Trump is a good man.

2020-03-01 21:26:04 UTC  

Secession should only be legal in Europe, that's your contention?

2020-03-01 21:26:27 UTC  

Satellite states were nations which each had a unique cultural identity. The Soviet Union actively oppressed them through physical means as well.

2020-03-01 21:27:03 UTC  

You are saying the South did not have a cultural identity different from the North?

2020-03-01 21:27:27 UTC  

Barely a sub-culture. Both the yankees and southerners held very similar cultural characteristics.

2020-03-01 21:28:34 UTC  

It's also a joke that you decry "Make America Great Again!", while also defending a secession which could've dismantled the United States as a whole.

2020-03-01 21:28:48 UTC  

Ok, well, either you're arguing in bad faith or ignorant of the sociopolitics of the era, not meant to be Ad Hominem, I simply don't see any point going on here

2020-03-01 21:30:18 UTC  

Perhaps because you've provided non-examples. Imagine comparing a brutal communist regime to the Union in the 1800s.

2020-03-01 21:31:15 UTC  

The southern states weren't "satellite states". They were simply discontent because the Southern aristocracy were mad that their institution of slavery was being slowly made useless by industrialization.

jannie got lost in my belly button and I had to use the Valium as bait to get them to come back out

2020-03-01 21:34:06 UTC  

It's a bit more complicated than that, I encourage others to do more reading into the economic and political relations between N and S, very interesting

2020-03-01 21:35:20 UTC  

There was also the fact that they were harming US industry by trying to sell most of their stuff to Britain instead

2020-03-01 21:37:03 UTC  

In a sense, the Civil War was our version of what other nations' communist revolutions did