Message from @Noey

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2020-03-09 06:07:17 UTC  

if you can't pay people enough to live maybe you shouldn't be in business

2020-03-09 06:07:36 UTC  

because you're in the business of exploitation rather than profit and growth

2020-03-09 06:08:18 UTC  

Or maybe people were lazy and had the money and expenses to pay people to harvest crops and then a machine was made and people had no use of using slaves

2020-03-09 06:08:44 UTC  

so that analogy went right the fuck over your head

2020-03-09 06:09:11 UTC  

Everything goes over my fucking head

2020-03-09 06:09:29 UTC  

oh so you're short too gross

2020-03-09 06:09:41 UTC  

Nah

2020-03-09 06:09:45 UTC  

Im kidding

2020-03-09 06:09:49 UTC  

Im tired

2020-03-09 06:09:58 UTC  

Wanted to say random shit

2020-03-09 06:09:58 UTC  

are you saying businesses that pay their employees minimum wage shouldnt be a business if they cant pay their employees 15 dollars an hour?

2020-03-09 06:10:01 UTC  

if there's one thing we don't need it is more manlets

2020-03-09 06:11:05 UTC  

no I'm saying the idea of a living wage is sound and I'm giving you an example

2020-03-09 06:11:09 UTC  

I think 15 is probably too much

2020-03-09 06:11:31 UTC  

you can strike a balance

2020-03-09 06:11:41 UTC  

without fucking over the lower class completely

2020-03-09 06:12:04 UTC  

There's alot of variables to a wage of an employee

2020-03-09 06:12:21 UTC  

I couldnt list them all

2020-03-09 06:14:05 UTC  

"if you can't pay people enough to live maybe you shouldn't be in business"
but you said if you cant pay your employees a livable wage you shouldnt be a business.
there are a lot of for example family owned bakers that have a few employees and make enough to pay the owner's bills and the paychecks of its employees. If 15 dollars was implemented to be a minimum wage what would stop the businesses from letting go half their employees to pay the livable wage.

2020-03-09 06:14:43 UTC  

Wouldnt this just leave some Americans without jobs?

2020-03-09 06:15:29 UTC  

well it's a complex issue people make the mistake of thinking this is basic economics when it's not

2020-03-09 06:15:48 UTC  

Seattle has $15 minimum wage so just look at them for example

2020-03-09 06:16:18 UTC  

I think more likely is a reduction in hours and understaffing

2020-03-09 06:17:02 UTC  

and if it's a family business you have more kids to slave away for free obviously

2020-03-09 06:17:55 UTC  

but yeah even with a mom and pop your wages are a part of your expenses, not the whole pie

2020-03-09 06:18:13 UTC  

from the perspective of the employee it's their whole pie

2020-03-09 06:19:37 UTC  

but yeah that argument is made a lot and I think it's shit because it's a scarcity mindset

2020-03-09 06:19:49 UTC  

if you're in business you should be making money hand over fist sweet profit

2020-03-09 06:19:57 UTC  

why the fuck do you have a bakery if you're breaking even

2020-03-09 06:20:05 UTC  

you should close anyways you're wasting time

2020-03-09 06:20:56 UTC  

if the only reason your business is alive is because you pay your employees less than what they need to survive then maybe your business is the one that should die

2020-03-09 06:22:01 UTC  

Well thatz what the whole workers rights movement was all about in the late 1800's

2020-03-09 06:22:04 UTC  

Also

2020-03-09 06:22:21 UTC  

Its not exactly an ideal job to keep at mcdonalds

2020-03-09 06:22:33 UTC  

Because its more of a teenager starting job

2020-03-09 06:22:45 UTC  

So no shit your not going to be paid the most

2020-03-09 06:22:53 UTC  

Because anyone can get that job

2020-03-09 06:23:04 UTC  

also a common argument but it's wrong

2020-03-09 06:23:22 UTC  

So how is it wrong?

2020-03-09 06:23:31 UTC  

90.7% of people on minimum wage are over the age of 20