because the minimum is too low for people to live and too high for stupid businesses that would exist if it were $1/hour minimum

don't you care about my sweatshop that pays $1/hour because I can't even start it

speaking of... plenty of places pay less than the minimum as it is go find a mexican without paperwork

Isnt that what trump was preaching when he said illegals are taking the jobs of Americans

yeah but it's worse because he's talking H1-B hiring people from every country on earth but america

most of them send money home to their families it's fucked

so yeah trump is 100% right

anyway I don't want to go on about a fucking wage just consider what I'm sayin there's a lot to that story you don't have to go full $40 minimum and become a vegan feminist

god i hate trump

i cant wait till bernie gets elected

shut your whore mouth

i just love bernie

well yea im not an economist or ever claimed to be one, im just looking at cause and effect. How i see it, you're forcing businesses to pay employees 15 dollars more eliminating the competition for crappy but essential jobs. Which I think is what the whole philosophy of capitalism that the world cant run without competition. I think a good example of that would be UPS before fedex. UPS absolutely sucked until FedEx came along and provided competition causing UPS to step up their game

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I'm going to unironically not vote because every candidate fucking sucks

UPS still sucks my dude

if you think it sucks now you should have seen it before FedEx

wait did my friend just get banned for saying he hates trump

thats unfounded bigotry

MOOOOOODSSSSSSS

that guy sent me 5 PMs obviously trolling

a large minimum wage hike would cause McDonalds to automate absolutely everything they already replaced cashiers at all 14k locations in the US

so could mean more people need to become trash collectors 😛

wouldnt that just tank the unemployment rate leaving americans without jobs?

i mean if you're for that

there's no need to speculate this stuff has been done and studied

for example https://evans.uw.edu/sites/default/files/MinWageReport-July2016_Final.pdf

its referencing Seattle again

seattle raised minimum wage to $11 it resulted in a 1% change

not about the $15

pretty sure the impact on workers exceeds 1% benefit

but i thought a 15 dollar minimum wage was supposed to be implemented to people can live off it 🤔

what

the whole conversation was about a livable wage being 15 dollars

yeah partly, mostly about a livable wage being a valid idea and my point was the current minimum is a poverty wage

but if we are having an open coversation id like for you to sum up this article so i dont have to read 57 slides

I think I did.

so out of 57 slides it resulted in a 1% change?

yes, increasing the minimum wage resulted in a 1% decrease in low-wage employment

so when you come at me with a speculative idea like it would destroy the market or whatever I am calling bullshit and maybe look to studies instead