Message from @CthulhuOnIce

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2020-03-11 20:26:10 UTC  

"False, my daddy told me socialistsm is the evil gubmint comin to take my shotgun an my beer and I won't be told otherwise"

2020-03-11 20:26:22 UTC  

They do have lots of socialistic policies though. None that I agree with obviously

2020-03-11 20:26:24 UTC  

“a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state”


From the Miriam Webster dictionary

2020-03-11 20:26:47 UTC  

Not the people. The *state*

The idea of “democratic” socialism is fake

2020-03-11 20:26:57 UTC  

Ad hominem is not a valid argument, and is also an indicator that you have none.

2020-03-11 20:26:58 UTC  

not all authoritarian policies are socialist. but all of socialist ideology relies on authoritarianism.

2020-03-11 20:27:17 UTC  

so·cial·ism

/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/

Learn to pronounce

noun

a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole

2020-03-11 20:27:49 UTC  

"social organization" and "community" means GOVERNMENT.
Serious question: Do you have a learning disability?

2020-03-11 20:27:58 UTC  

lmao at the Liberals that are blaming Trump for the stock market rn

2020-03-11 20:28:02 UTC  

Community means community dipshit

2020-03-11 20:28:22 UTC  

"this word actually mean other word"

2020-03-11 20:28:35 UTC  

and the community gets together and decides shit by means of a......?

2020-03-11 20:28:46 UTC  

youre a troll lmao you cant define anything youre saying or do anything than assert surface level fuckery

2020-03-11 20:28:51 UTC  

Co-operative workplace @LC

2020-03-11 20:28:52 UTC  

Magic wizard?

2020-03-11 20:29:03 UTC  

<:ultrasmug:624684793199722498>

2020-03-11 20:29:17 UTC  

But that’s communism tho.

Commune, community, etc etc it’s in the etymology

2020-03-11 20:29:36 UTC  

@saturn broker

***Gives dictionary definition***
"You can't define anything >:("

2020-03-11 20:29:54 UTC  

"We have to take away all your civil rights and massively expand government power, so you can have 'more' freedom, guiz!"

2020-03-11 20:30:04 UTC  

im not even mad lmao. youre trying so hard.

2020-03-11 20:30:09 UTC  

@Doc Jinzo, PhD in Trap Negation you're close actually, the difference is communism is purely theoretical and is anarchic

2020-03-11 20:30:45 UTC  

@LC employee owned workplaces are an **expansion of government power**?

2020-03-11 20:31:15 UTC  

And socialism on a massive scale would mean the commune (country) would need someone to broker resources, in this case the govt.

And to ur point yes the govt is elected by the ppl so they would control the resources

But what happens when the govt decides to use its newfound control over the resources to no longer have the people be in control of said resources?

2020-03-11 20:31:38 UTC  

Those are free to try right now under capitalism. You should get your friends together and start one.
Say, how come those aren't all over the United States?

2020-03-11 20:31:43 UTC  

@Doc Jinzo, PhD in Trap Negation or just Every corporation becomes a co-op

2020-03-11 20:31:43 UTC  

what exactly will employees own and whats the justification for them owning something? if youre an employee at a factory do you get to own a machine? thats private ownership of property then right?

2020-03-11 20:31:52 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/665554472906391583/687397404424667181/97c.jpg

2020-03-11 20:32:17 UTC  

@saturn broker the employees are the foundation for the business? No, the employees would vote for representatives to sit on the board of directors

2020-03-11 20:32:23 UTC  

no theyre not the foundation.

2020-03-11 20:32:33 UTC  

They are

2020-03-11 20:32:38 UTC  

What you mean to say is that you are going to CONFISCATE my property, and give it to the community.

2020-03-11 20:33:11 UTC  

@LC Christ you're dense

2020-03-11 20:33:17 UTC  

you are not the most important part of the small business you work at

2020-03-11 20:33:22 UTC  

But not everyone in a corporation can do every job, plus they’d be too large to be a “co-op”

2020-03-11 20:33:34 UTC  

he thinks he's important, that's for sure

2020-03-11 20:33:53 UTC  

Okay I gotta go. Later.

2020-03-11 20:35:25 UTC  

A co-op is formed on the basis that everyone contributes so everyone reaps benefit. In small numbers this can work. In larger numbers this can’t, as you’ll have people inevitably trying to not work and game the system. It’s human nature.

That’s where the authoritarianism aspect of socialism comes in. In order to make sure people contribute so the machine won’t stop functioning, strict laws are made and penalties are enforced to make sure everyone is working while those at the top making those laws reap most of the benefit

2020-03-11 20:35:57 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/665554472906391583/687398432528138456/FB_IMG_1583801230811.jpg

2020-03-11 20:36:07 UTC  

what experience do you have with financing, taking risk, accounting, ensuring quality, buying inventory, budgeting, resolving complaints, understanding managerial processes, business intelligence etc... you probably dont. so why would you get a say in how a business is run? why should you get a say when you've sacrificed nothing to start a business.

2020-03-11 20:36:37 UTC  

Schools closing near me

2020-03-11 20:37:42 UTC  

Everyone in my town is rushing to horde supplies. I’m not joking.