I think there may be a difference in average IQs across races however this should not be a reason for racial discrimination or segregation

agree 200%

IQ is easy to test, therefore test for it (certainly 5 million times easier to ascertain than race)\

Even if blacks were less intelligent than whites (theoretically, I have not done research to be able to claim so) there would still be millions of above average blacks and millions of below average whites in SA

absolutely true

And you would have to remove rights for whites too. And then Willems whole white nation shit falls apart

in a population of 50 million with an average of 75IQ means 4.5million have > 125IQ

Exactly, that's the whole population of Cape town for example

but still we should be allowed to discuss ideas, like I can say dutch people are hella tall without raising any eyebrows

And if those with higher IQs work in the suburbs and cities and those with lower IQs do rural work you may never need to meet a low IQ person in your life

IQ is such a small part of the picture, not wanting to meet 'low IQ' individuals is in itself questionable

The Dutch example is interesting but nobody has ever used their height as a reason to deny them rights like IQ has for black people

the US military discriminates on IQ

because it's life and death

discriminating on race instead of IQ makes no sense, because IQ is easy to test for and race is impossible to test for

The US military hasn't flat out denied certain races based on their average IQ though. They test individuals. Systems like American segregation and Apartheid flat out took away black people's rights based on their supposed intelligence

I don't think intelligence was the ultimate motivation for grand apartheid

it was about cultural differences

but I'm going to get shat on here if I even talk about this stuff

It was certainly one of them. It's why blacks were given a dumbed down education system and used for hard labor

are you from south africa? have you seen the school system here? Nelson Mandela and Oliver Thambo were practicing lawyers in the 60s

If the stereotypical "black cultural traits" of laziness and looking for handouts were true, why would the Apartheid government make them do additional work? Wouldn't you want supposedly highly motivated whites doing the work because they have a better cultural work ethic?

@rob you know Mandela was educated in a missionary school right

Thankfully he was born too early for Bantu education

Bantu produced the Zuma's and his generation of politicians

you're right, sorry

Apartheid definitely fucked up a few generations of black South Africans. It's not being an SJW to admit this. It's just called having a bit of sympathy. Like a human

the people's war fucked up lives more than the bantu education

And the current government has absolutely failed it's people

Absolutely rob

apartheid was inefficient, just because shit is fucked up now doesn't mean that apartheid was any good

race classification is retarded

It was great chatting to you

cheers man

sorry about the aggro earlier

No problem

busy news day for yall saffers and yanks

It's obviously possible to discuss race and IQ without devolving into racist meme posting. All without heavy moderation. It just seems that Willems and Renaldos discords attract different kinds of people

Goodbye