Message from @TheDamned

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2019-04-01 21:53:14 UTC  

wage gap non existent

2019-04-01 21:54:18 UTC  

ok so basically the idea is that it's through the unrestricted free market that we can obtain what could be referred to as a "socialist" utopia

2019-04-01 21:55:07 UTC  

like there's no restrictions - no copyrights or any state to hold up corporations

2019-04-01 21:55:12 UTC  

we're fine as a capitalist country

2019-04-01 21:55:24 UTC  

mutualism is anarchy imagined as a series of relationships where no party has power over another

2019-04-01 21:55:37 UTC  

so you could argue that it's not entirely socialist or communist but oh well

2019-04-01 21:56:01 UTC  

anarchy is ridiculous

2019-04-01 21:56:03 UTC  

*but oh well*

2019-04-01 21:56:11 UTC  

a world with no government

2019-04-01 21:56:17 UTC  

it is ridiculous

2019-04-01 21:56:28 UTC  

there has never been a successful anarchist state

2019-04-01 21:56:45 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542037236053442561/562394951552598017/9k.png

2019-04-01 21:56:52 UTC  

oh those

2019-04-01 21:56:56 UTC  

are ancoms

2019-04-01 21:56:56 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542037236053442561/562395000718098472/image-20160705-19110-1jh0g40.png

2019-04-01 21:57:04 UTC  

lmao based

2019-04-01 21:57:49 UTC  

"The natural effect of unfettered market competition is socialism. For a short time the innovator receives a large profit, as a reward for being first to the market. Then, as competitors adopt the innovation, competition drives these profits down to zero and the price gravitates toward the new, lower cost of production made possible by this innovation (that price including, of course, the cost of the producer’s maintenance and the amortization of her capital outlays). So in a free market, the cost savings in labor required to produce any given commodity would quickly be socialized in the form of reduced labor cost to purchase it.

Only when the state enforces artificial scarcities, artificial property rights, and barriers to competition, is it possible for a capitalist to appropriate some part of the cost savings as a permanent rent. The capitalist, under these conditions, is enabled to engage in monopoly pricing. That is, rather than being forced by competition to price her goods at the actual cost of production (including her own livelihood), she can target the price to the consumer’s ability to pay."

2019-04-01 21:57:52 UTC  

That's basically it

2019-04-01 21:57:57 UTC  

nice copypasta

2019-04-01 21:58:11 UTC  

k

2019-04-01 21:58:20 UTC  

Oh

2019-04-01 21:58:35 UTC  

I did put it in quotation marks 😳

2019-04-01 21:58:46 UTC  

Indeed

2019-04-01 21:59:59 UTC  

anyways i only have the communist role because mutualism believes that through the use of an entirely free and unrestricted market without a state we can achieve socialism

2019-04-01 22:00:06 UTC  

you know what's funny

2019-04-01 22:00:07 UTC  

GG @Darman, you just advanced to level 8!

2019-04-01 22:00:09 UTC  

it's not communist through practice, but rather as an end

2019-04-01 22:00:12 UTC  

you could say

2019-04-01 22:00:32 UTC  

Bernie Sanders dogs on rich people but owns more than one house

2019-04-01 22:00:50 UTC  

communism would never work properly

2019-04-01 22:01:13 UTC  

yup because it has totalaritarian leadership

2019-04-01 22:01:24 UTC  

at least in the past too

2019-04-01 22:01:51 UTC  

its not even cause of that too

2019-04-01 22:02:04 UTC  

see I have to agree with you to some degree

2019-04-01 22:02:13 UTC  

millions of people even died of communism

2019-04-01 22:02:16 UTC  

eehh

2019-04-01 22:02:17 UTC  

fuck

2019-04-01 22:02:20 UTC  

we all know what communists want

2019-04-01 22:02:20 UTC  

it could be argued that communism has to enforce its rules through an authoritarian government

2019-04-01 22:02:28 UTC  

im not in the mood to argue or debate

2019-04-01 22:02:39 UTC  

even anarcho communism has to be achieved through some authoritarian means