Message from @Pelth
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the entire system of u.s is a carbon copy of england
What about Canada my guy
of course u.s.a was created by englishmen who wanted their own england and rights as englishmen
magna carta, provisions of oxford, petition of right, all flow directly into u.s constitution
the u.s constitution is just the english bill of rights
It's quite unlike england.
so they recreated their own english system in the u.s but further democraticsed it
I @WP I mean a lot of stuff was based on it and yeah the people were English but now it's much different and mixed
becuase the u.k has changed, no the u.s
the u.k is very different now, but the u.s is the true continuation of england
the u.s has simply been further democraticsed and rationalised and systematised
but the u.k is just an incoherent mess of politics with no functioning true executive
to paraquote starkey:
The us politics is a big bowl of soup now. A lot of country's are
if you look at the senate it is merely an elective house of lords. to begin with you were indirectly elected, remember the constitution amendment providing for direct election to the senate is only on the eve of the first world war, but if you look at the senators each rejoices in a quasi-noble status of two per two
per state
the kind of duke of minnesota and earl of oregon. they have effectively life tenures. they have, like the british peerage, access to loot and pillage and reward their followers, sometimes they get found out and there are processes, going directly up to the president itself of impeachment, which is taken straight out of the medieval constitution
the process that clinton narrowly escaped of trial before the senate with the lower house acting as prosecutors
British parliament composition wasn't based on population. Like some of their districts only had like 100 people in them.
what are the house of represenatives? they are simply the commons of england. their presiding officer is called the speaker just like in u.k parliament
even the administrative officer is the sergeant at arms. why is the u.s lower house run by the sergeant at arms? because the sergeant at arms is the administrative official of the house of cmmons in england since the reign of henry viii
we're not looking at how systems are furhter democraticsed but the structure ofthe system
of course originally when u.s was founded it was only white male property owners who could vote
the founders of the u.s were not concerned with democracy, they were concerned with liberty
that's why washington d.c is so beautifully laid out so that you can easily machinegun rampaging mobs from strongpoints
to continue:
the president is a monarch. i used to say, until reagan was elected, the president was simply geroge iii without a wig, but then reagan came along and the joke fell almost flat as his hair was bouffant
British parliament was basically just an advanced version of the feudal system where vassals could vote
the u.s president also has a court, as all monarchs have their courts; america is ruled by a cabinet chosen purely by the president, and the key officers do not sit in the cabinet but are genuine courtiers, rogues of the night
right, and overtime it changed and evolved, but no
many people could vote, it changed back and forth overtime, but it was more a matter of property owners
you voted for your local knight to go to parliament or if you lived in a town voted for your burgess
not too dissimilar to parliaments in other european countires, at least on a surface level quite similar but really world's apart in the fundamentals which is why u.s.a and u.k and anglo world so different in politics to european countries
which we see with u.k leaivng e.u today that european politics is a roman model and roman law while anglo world is english law, which is sort of inverted
in the 19th century we get mass suffrage coming along both in u.k and u.s and other countries, and the whole thing is a sham
Like 95% of people in britain couldn't vote. It was just a popularity contest amongst noble families
it's just politicians realising that you can bribe people with their own money
you mean when? 800 years ago in the beginnings? yea and it changed overtime