murder rates were huge during early societies

which early societies?

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I have some books

what do you mean by early societies?

you mean ancient civilisations of serfdom?

yea they sucked because it's serfdom and slavery

no

these english villages had like 10 times the homicide rate of chicago

serfdom wasn't really a thing until it was

you: "pretty low"

"a thing until it was"

the words of an uneducated blathering moron

medieval serfdom was a cultural manifestation

it didn't happen in the same way elsewhere

workers being bound to land goes way back before medieval times

and it was arguably even worse in africa and asia

people were pretty migratory in antiquity

the same sort of misery in the chinese bureaucratic field systems, and in sub continent, and in africa

more meaningless babble from you "people were pretty migratory"

do you understand you've been talking shit for how long now and you haven't made one point that has any truth to it?

i have to know why you care to defend serfdom

if you understood history and knew how to read you'd understand

is it that you're like some virgin manlet angry at the modern world and you buy into that meme of if you were a serf you'd get some serf pussy orsometing?

bitch you don't even understand how serfdom ended

you demonstrated you don't know what the malthusian trap is, you don't know how serfdom worked, you don't know what caused high and late middle ages urbanisation

it transformed into an abomination

you don't understand that the reason it happened was better opportunities and higher living standards

and cities are to blame pretty much

urbanization is no bueno

GG @Pelth, you just advanced to level 10!

you haven't made one argument that has any truth to it

urbanisation in the late middle ages and early modern ages led to people going from being malnurished midgets living in hell to being literate cultured professional tradesmen eating varied healthy diet, spending money on exotic goods

having shoes to wear

even multiple shoes to wear

having actual tailored clothes

nobody needs those things

it wasn't until the late modern age and industrial revoltuion that urbanisation became the hellscape of child labour and so on

hello

they had the open country air and freedom

they had no freedom and they were burning their own shit to keep warm