Depends on caloric needs

for actual activity

That's pretty arbitrary yeah

Olympic swimmers need a metric fuckton

Like bruh that’s twice the amount for your average man

and are still heart healthy

i mean if your needs are that high, it means you already have a lot of strain on your heart

They are super unhealthy

Nah nah

and in a cold enough place while working 4000 calories can be necessary

Olympic athletes are super unhealthy

Not healthy either

It's that or whither away

Yea but it does not make it any healthier

Like the lads who work on oil rigs screw themselves over and can hardly walk at the age of 50

And they get like 60 heart attacks

No

And so many joint pains

It’s crazy

>does not make it healthier

What's healthy to eat is based on what your body needs to replenish what its spent. Those people who work on oil rigs for long hours are indeed overworking themselves, but with actual proper working hours and recovery people tend to not kill themselves

Well they kinda do either way

It's generally accepted that the human heart has a finite range of heartbeats and that range is similar amongst all humans.

But that’s beyond the point

The more you make it beat, the lower your lifespan generally.

If you require a greater number than 4000 calories a day to keep up muscle mass you are obviously not healthy

You are straining your organs like crazy

It's not commonly accepted Pelth

GG @Sobe the Polish Panna, you just advanced to level 2!

muscles will put strain on the bones and organs just like being obese does

yes it is

no tbh Gerry depending on your muscle mass that coudl be normal

it's more complex than a finite amount

I’m talking about your average joe

*sobs*

things like tortoises live so long because they have super slow heart beats

And you gotta be well over 7 feet to take in more than 4000 calories a day to survive

Wrong

mice have super fast heart beats

if you don't sit on your ass all day can definitely do that

And if you have so large muscles you need over 4000 calories a day to keep em up you are definitely unhealthy