What if "revolutioN" doesnt turn out to be political violence at all

What if we have something like Barthollomews Day massacre

Where people will just clash on the streets on purely economic and ethnic basis

Like more of upheaval than a war or revolution

That could go either way. Either everyone takes sides, and white identity politics becomes the norm - or the upheaval is isolated and crushed China-style and Americans can kiss their freedoms goodbye

I'm particularly curious about a possible collapse of the EU though

Lets say Europeans go violent against migrants

Elites can still stay in power once they restore order

And can even shift their policies in acnkowledgment

But we would not have a proper system change

if the EU fails, and individual countries are under internal stresses due to the migration, a catastrophic change might be possible

We need to raise the volatility so as to enable some kind of Black Swan to emerge

I don't think we can predict which way the table *should* tilt, but we can try tilting it *some way* until the ball gets rolling.

mixing metaphors there, sorry

Some states are already forming mini blocks, V4 comes to mind

But in case of major Eu collapse, some fringes of Europe will become vulnerable for exploitation

Balkans in particular

Exploitation by whom?

Turkey lets say

We still have no idea how are things going to turn out in France or Sweden

We could have a proper fragmentaton and collapse of power centers

I believe we will see it

First reaction of population would be all sorts of economical and racial flight

it's the SHTF everyone is instinctively anticipating

The one saving grace would be if economy collapsed first

Which is quite possible

But that would be ugly for many

Why would it be the saving grace?

Sorry I'm asking more than answering. I'm out of my depth here.

Well it would promote grouping and cohesion (although the opposite in some cases too)

It would deincentivize migrations, and make some recent immigrants leave

It would restore to an extent farming and other kinds of economy that are not easy to financially manipulate (though government interventions and tyranny are possible)

It would certainly present system as incapable and illegitimate

But there are dangers as well

I'm out for tonight, It was pleasure to have this discussion

See you on Gab and elsewhere

Same here, many thanks for your insight!

Goodnight all!

Good night Brett!

I'm signing off too

Thanks all for the great hangout tonight