Message from @Mimi

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2018-12-15 03:32:02 UTC  

Yes, even 10/22s

2018-12-15 03:33:29 UTC  

In Australia our gun ban is overstated heavily by American media

2018-12-15 03:34:07 UTC  

It is, the buyback didnt even confiscate half of australia's guns and now australia has more guns than they did before the buyback

2018-12-15 03:34:26 UTC  

It also didn't have a significant impact on homicides or suicides afaik

2018-12-15 03:34:42 UTC  

I imagine there's a lot of "mysterious" trips to the outback with lots of brass and lead

2018-12-15 03:35:02 UTC  

People like to focus on gun deaths though, "look guys, banning guns lowered gun deaths", but overall deaths remain unchanged

2018-12-15 03:35:44 UTC  

Well people who want to kill themselves will do it another way obviously

2018-12-15 03:36:08 UTC  

The idea that you need to ban guns to stop people from choosing to take their own lives is incredibly insulting

2018-12-15 03:36:10 UTC  

You can still get a weapon if you wanted to go that way, you just need a reason like hunting

2018-12-15 04:18:10 UTC  

they recently banned a bolt action ar upper in straya

2018-12-15 04:32:26 UTC  

I mean...

2018-12-15 04:32:36 UTC  

maybe it could've been mistake for something a lot deadlier

2018-12-15 04:32:41 UTC  

and fearmongering.

2018-12-15 04:32:49 UTC  

sure, it's bullshit, but understandable.

2018-12-15 04:33:06 UTC  

australia also had a panic over lever action shotguns recently

2018-12-15 04:33:23 UTC  

pretty sure they put them in the most restrictive category

2018-12-15 04:33:27 UTC  

wait there are lever action shotguns?

2018-12-15 04:34:36 UTC  

I only know a very actual specific types of firearms. I'm not an expert on anything, but I'm not a fucking moron.

2018-12-15 04:35:31 UTC  

Yeah there's the winchester 1887, that's an older design but newer designs were made for australia
asutralia put pump shotguns in a pretty restricted category, but lever action ones weren't. So in australia lever action shotguns were pretty popular as a result, but then they got pushed to the most restricted category(i believe worse than pump action)

2018-12-15 04:36:09 UTC  

Ah, I see.

2018-12-15 04:36:27 UTC  

that's probably why I've never heard of them. pump and semi-auto are more common here

2018-12-15 04:37:31 UTC  

My father has a 20 gauge pump and a 12 gauge semi-automatic shotgun.

2018-12-15 04:37:58 UTC  

they're like, antiques with how old they are though, and they work perfectly fucking fine.

2018-12-15 04:38:50 UTC  

Yeah I own a mosin nagant carbine manufactured in 1942 and it holds up well, only issue was the stock had a crack on it but i glued it and the stock doesnt impact functionality

2018-12-15 04:38:59 UTC  

Ah.

2018-12-15 04:39:15 UTC  

are guns just like, built really shitty these days or something?

2018-12-15 04:39:17 UTC  

As long as guns are maintained and stored well, with wearable parts replaced every so often(springs, magazine, etc) they can last a very long time

2018-12-15 04:39:19 UTC  

like in their durability?

2018-12-15 04:39:23 UTC  

Nah, depends on the company

2018-12-15 04:39:45 UTC  

for example remington got bought out and since then they've been putting poor finishes on their guns and have a tendency to rust

2018-12-15 04:39:46 UTC  

We did have lever action shotguns banned, as they deemed the fire rate contrary to legislation

2018-12-15 04:39:53 UTC  

oh dear.

2018-12-15 04:40:12 UTC  

mossberg is a very good alternative to remington though

2018-12-15 04:40:19 UTC  

they still make good guns

2018-12-15 04:40:20 UTC  

soon you'll only have break action with a lock that you have to use a key to open it

2018-12-15 04:40:46 UTC  

I may be tough with my beliefs, but I don't think an out right ban is a good thing either.

2018-12-15 04:41:31 UTC  

thats kind of how you need to have ARs in california, if you have any "assault weapon" features your magazine needs to be fixed into place and the gun's lower and upper receivers must be separated for you to remove the magazine or load it with a clip

2018-12-15 04:41:43 UTC  

Democrats love to mischaracterise the gun ban in Australia

2018-12-15 05:15:29 UTC  

@garonedin On the bright side, if history is any guide, NYS has a <5% compliance rate with it's own rifle registry. Plus local rural sheriffs are known for simply ignoring gun laws whenever possible (often being elected simply to do just that). https://hudsonvalleyone.com/2016/07/07/massive-noncompliance-with-safe-act/

If you want a nice narrative on how this all plays out: https://reason.com/archives/2018/02/20/after-the-gun-ban

Still won't help much in the long run and painful in what it does to availability of the fun stuff. But these things have a way of getting ignored in practice.

2018-12-15 05:24:23 UTC  

I joined the GOA, NRA, & SAF last year, @Grovyle. 👍🏽