Message from @Kyle Judkins

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2018-10-24 03:46:17 UTC  

hell

2018-10-24 03:46:23 UTC  

my bloodline

2018-10-24 03:46:32 UTC  

Like, Malcom X didn't propose a black state because he thought blacks were superior

2018-10-24 03:46:34 UTC  

came here as germin migrants on one side, and slave on the other

2018-10-24 03:46:49 UTC  

i dont even think segregation has much merit

2018-10-24 03:47:08 UTC  

ultimately it will just divide and consume the smaller ones

2018-10-24 03:47:24 UTC  

like the dumb way to ethnic cleanse imo

2018-10-24 03:47:32 UTC  

Im just waiting for space aliens to invade and kill us indiscriminately

2018-10-24 03:47:44 UTC  

then those states will focus on immigrants to bolster their numbers and ultimately economic power

2018-10-24 03:48:01 UTC  

if white nation sees latino nation importing massive amounts of migrants

2018-10-24 03:48:05 UTC  

does white nation attack latino nation?

2018-10-24 03:48:07 UTC  

lol

2018-10-24 03:48:32 UTC  

why do people qoute malcom x?

2018-10-24 03:48:36 UTC  

he was dumb as hell too

2018-10-24 03:48:38 UTC  

```After his Hajj, Malcolm X articulated a view of white people and racism that represented a deep change from the philosophy he had supported as a minister of the Nation of Islam. In a famous letter from Mecca, he wrote that his experiences with white people during his pilgrimage convinced him to "rearrange" his thinking about race and "toss aside some of [his] previous conclusions".[263] In a conversation with Gordon Parks, two days before his assassination, Malcolm said:

[L]istening to leaders like Nasser, Ben Bella, and Nkrumah awakened me to the dangers of racism. I realized racism isn't just a black and white problem. It's brought bloodbaths to about every nation on earth at one time or another.

Brother, remember the time that white college girl came into the restaurant‍—‌the one who wanted to help the [Black] Muslims and the whites get together‍—‌and I told her there wasn't a ghost of a chance and she went away crying? Well, I've lived to regret that incident. In many parts of the African continent I saw white students helping black people. Something like this kills a lot of argument. I did many things as a [Black] Muslim that I'm sorry for now. I was a zombie then‍—‌like all [Black] Muslims‍—‌I was hypnotized, pointed in a certain direction and told to march. Well, I guess a man's entitled to make a fool of himself if he's ready to pay the cost. It cost me 12 years.

That was a bad scene, brother. The sickness and madness of those days‍—‌I'm glad to be free of them.[264]```

2018-10-24 03:48:48 UTC  

That first part is eerily familiar

2018-10-24 03:48:58 UTC  

What he says to that white girl

2018-10-24 03:49:00 UTC  

only thing he said intelligent was knowing that black votes were for white liberals

2018-10-24 03:49:18 UTC  

This gives me a little bit of hope

2018-10-24 03:49:30 UTC  

If even Malcom X can eventually become less racist, maybe the left can, too

2018-10-24 03:49:35 UTC  

wow its almost like

2018-10-24 03:49:41 UTC  

malcom x wasnt for an ethnostate after all

2018-10-24 03:49:56 UTC  

This part is because he apparently changed his mind late in life

2018-10-24 03:49:58 UTC  

maybe pointless tribalism is worthless

2018-10-24 03:50:05 UTC  

and american exceptionalism is where it's at

2018-10-24 03:54:02 UTC  

So, I'll just come back to say that you seem to think that I was arguing for an ethnostate and I definitely wasn't. Just because DNA is different doesn't mean it's what countries should be based on.

2018-10-24 03:56:57 UTC  

Isn't that his point entirely?

2018-10-24 03:57:12 UTC  

All DNA is really different, ergo organizing society on it is foolish?

2018-10-24 03:57:37 UTC  

IDK, I'm not completely sure we actually disagreed

2018-10-24 04:00:49 UTC  

TBH I think e.g. Richard Spencer would resolve the mixed-race thing by just saying that cross-race breeding is a capital offense or something

2018-10-24 04:01:22 UTC  

Like, in a world carved up into ethno-states.

2018-10-24 04:01:39 UTC  

That seems pretty extreme.

2018-10-24 04:02:16 UTC  

As far as I can tell, he doesn't really have a theory of anything like rights

2018-10-24 04:02:25 UTC  

It seems more about survival/propagation

2018-10-24 04:02:37 UTC  

I mean, the whole Hispanic "race" is just mixed native/European

2018-10-24 04:03:18 UTC  

He might think they can have their own state or something, but that would get real complicated real fast

2018-10-24 04:03:31 UTC  

Yep.

2018-10-24 04:03:44 UTC  

Richard Spencer makes not sense to me

2018-10-24 04:04:31 UTC  

I dunno, just doesn't seem like the most stable basis for national foundations.

2018-10-24 04:04:55 UTC  

Just carve out a geographical area and form a distinct culture like all the other prosperous modern nations.

2018-10-24 04:05:20 UTC  

I'm sure he'd then argue that race and culture are inextricably linked, and that's another hour of my time gone.