Message from @DrWittMDPhD
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Thats true
Bottom line is that rights don't exist without enforcement. The only way things are enforced is through some mechanism of authority.
They still exist retard
You just have to think loose with the definition of authority to get that to fit in AnCapistan
The only way they dont is if people cease to think
Well they exist as much as unicorns exist
As an idea
If that's the route you wanna go down
They're only in the material world through enforcement by some form of authority
Rights are derived from thought
Yes as are all things, but there's a difference in our view on the definition of rights "existing"
They are only manifest as a rule in reality through enforcement
I guess you could squeeze it and say for rights to exist we must own ourselves
Which is kind of authority
But either way they come from thought
Yeah but the concept of unicorns come from thought, and they don't exist in the material world
This is an important distinction
Sure but rights are based on the metaphysics
Yes, but they have a material consequence through their enforcement through authority
Also unicorns are considered to be material if they existed
They only exist metaphysically, where a right is rooted in metaphysics, but extends to the real world through enforcement
Everything extends through metaphysics
Yeah which is my point
That's a lesser form of existence than something measurable in objective reality
They exist as a concept
Every idea exists metaphysically, but they exist in a lesser sense than the material
Literally nothing "doesn't exist" if you define existence to be only dependent on being an idea
That's why things existing metaphysically only shouldn't be considered to exist purely based on the idea of them being able to be thought.
True but the way they are written and talked about in mythology is based on it being material
Yes, so that's a better definition of existence.
But for a concept to exist one must be rationall
No not really. The concept of rage or lust can be felt, they don't need to be rationalized.
Those are percepts
Rage is still a concept
Define rage
Violent, uncontrollable anger.
According to google
Thats a percept id say it doesnt combine two or more concretes