Message from @Existence is identity

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2018-11-14 23:38:30 UTC  

We need to define exist

2018-11-14 23:38:35 UTC  

Cause we're getting caught up on that

2018-11-14 23:38:49 UTC  

These are not dank memes

2018-11-14 23:39:02 UTC  

๐Ÿ•ต

2018-11-14 23:39:18 UTC  

Will you fight? Or will you die like a dog?

2018-11-14 23:39:28 UTC  

๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ‘Œ

2018-11-14 23:39:30 UTC  

Existence existsโ€”and the act of grasping that statement implies two corollary axioms: that something exists which one perceives and that one exists possessing consciousness, consciousness being the faculty of perceiving that which exists.

2018-11-14 23:40:06 UTC  

Solipsism ayy

2018-11-14 23:40:24 UTC  

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2018-11-14 23:41:39 UTC  

If you define existence like that then unicorns exist. You can perceive the thought of unicorns.

2018-11-14 23:42:04 UTC  

That's why that definition of existence is useless. Everything under that definition of existence "exists"

2018-11-14 23:42:18 UTC  

Even a socialist society that doesn't lead to starvation and genocide.

2018-11-14 23:42:58 UTC  

It exists only in the consciousness but ignores the material things around it

2018-11-14 23:43:08 UTC  

Which is a contradiction

2018-11-14 23:43:34 UTC  

So if unicorns are a contradiction, then how do you see that definition of "existence" to be valid?

2018-11-14 23:43:37 UTC  

Reality is that which exists; the unreal does not exist; the unreal is merely that negation of existence which is the content of a human consciousness when it attempts to abandon reason.

2018-11-14 23:44:22 UTC  

@DrWittMDPhD Its a negation of existence

2018-11-14 23:44:35 UTC  

Okay so if unicorns don't exist because they are only a product of the mind and are not in reality, then rights don't exist unless they are enforced. If a right is ignored, it is simply an idea because it has no means to affect reality.

2018-11-14 23:45:06 UTC  

Yes

2018-11-14 23:45:42 UTC  

Okay so we agree that rights don't materially exist without enforcement, but they do conceptually exist no matter what, because everything exists conceptually

2018-11-14 23:45:46 UTC  

Mans nature to think brought rights which can be observed and traced back in his actions

2018-11-14 23:45:56 UTC  

Yes

2018-11-14 23:46:06 UTC  

Okay. Well done lads

2018-11-14 23:48:10 UTC  

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2018-11-14 23:57:30 UTC  

@DrWittMDPhD Where do you stand politcally?

2018-11-14 23:57:46 UTC  

Or have you read any philosophers?

2018-11-14 23:58:01 UTC  

Center rightish. Below the Authoritarian line a bit

2018-11-14 23:58:18 UTC  

My only philosopher is Sargon ๐Ÿ˜Ž

2018-11-14 23:58:24 UTC  

500 IQ btw

2018-11-15 00:00:21 UTC  

Eww sargon

2018-11-15 00:00:37 UTC  

Can't boom the boomer tbh

2018-11-15 00:01:09 UTC  

Why would you lower your standards that low to the point of someone be that worse than you

2018-11-15 00:01:13 UTC  

LUL

2018-11-15 00:01:46 UTC  

Bro what do you mean? One day I will get a job as a waiter at Applebee's, you'll see.

2018-11-15 00:03:16 UTC  

@DrWittMDPhD Sargon just needs to read more Peikoff and stop being such a neckbeard and he will be good

2018-11-15 00:04:35 UTC  

Nah dude you learn everything you need to know at Applebee's orientation

2018-11-15 02:56:53 UTC  
2018-11-15 02:57:05 UTC  

Hmm

2018-11-15 02:58:43 UTC  

Sargon is gei. Maoists get the bullet first.

2018-11-15 03:02:17 UTC  

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