Message from @GingaBomber

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2018-02-14 01:35:14 UTC  

Ethnonats have to give in to the same language-redifining that Socailists do in order for their respective objectives to make any sense to them.

2018-02-14 01:35:22 UTC  

And well, hypocrital as fuck as well.

2018-02-14 01:35:46 UTC  

I asked why is it greedy of me to want to keep more of the money I earned but not of others to want the govt to force people to give money to people who didnt.

2018-02-14 01:36:19 UTC  

They they just say its the right thing to do.

2018-02-14 01:36:35 UTC  

Last time me and Aussie got into it, he kept switching between definitions for the word 'Nation', so much so he got the second definition backwards, and essentially stated (by any literal assessment of the definition he was using) that Australians and Americans are two different races.

2018-02-14 01:36:37 UTC  

Well, if getting the govt to force everyone to pay more.

2018-02-14 01:37:47 UTC  

Nah rather not name another without subject being there.

2018-02-14 01:38:17 UTC  

Ah, he dropped out of here again.

2018-02-14 01:38:35 UTC  

probably because of the vore

2018-02-14 01:38:42 UTC  

naah, he was here after the vore.

2018-02-14 01:38:44 UTC  

Ah the 4chan tactic

2018-02-14 01:38:51 UTC  

classic way to deter normies.

2018-02-14 01:39:01 UTC  

~~To be fair, it wasn't very good vore.~~

2018-02-14 01:39:02 UTC  

Aussie is a normie confirmed

2018-02-14 01:39:15 UTC  

REEEEEEE

2018-02-14 01:39:15 UTC  

How the fuck do you vore as a skeleton

2018-02-14 01:39:16 UTC  

I asl

2018-02-14 01:39:17 UTC  

v o r e c o r e

2018-02-14 01:39:18 UTC  

REEEEEEEEEEEE

2018-02-14 01:39:24 UTC  

skelevore

2018-02-14 01:39:29 UTC  

Like theres no skin there.

2018-02-14 01:39:46 UTC  

shall I post more to help uncover this mystery?

2018-02-14 01:39:54 UTC  

Also, I have the stomach flu so Id rather not imagine the discomfort.

2018-02-14 01:49:02 UTC  

I think the weakness of civic nationalism is that it is weak to outside cultural influences, which is ironically supposed to be what it's strength is. I prefer the nationalist state to an ethnostate, don't get me wrong, but we do have to acknowledge the flaws in civic nationalism.

2018-02-14 01:49:32 UTC  

elaborate.

2018-02-14 01:50:08 UTC  

"weak to outside cultural influences" this 'weakness' could be defined two different ways depending on which side you're on.

2018-02-14 01:51:52 UTC  

Well, for instance, this issue Europe has with mass migration. The idea behind civic nationalism is that anyone coming into the country in question adopts it's values and traditions, or at least celebrates them, but what do you do with large groups of people coming into your country that won't 'play ball', so to speak? Civic nationalism is great, as long as everyone agrees to the conditions of it, but when large groups of people are coming into your country that don't agree to these conditions, I think eventually it will dissolve the state over time.

2018-02-14 01:52:34 UTC  

this is true

2018-02-14 01:52:44 UTC  

Agreed mostly

2018-02-14 01:52:54 UTC  

but mass immigration isn't a product of civic nationalism

2018-02-14 01:53:04 UTC  

And I admit, this is mostly an issue with mass uncontrolled migration in the first place, more than anything else.

2018-02-14 01:53:25 UTC  

I think I was just pointing out that this wouldn't happen in an ethnostate, although it does come with it's own problems, yeah.

2018-02-14 01:53:32 UTC  

weren't you a wolf before

2018-02-14 01:54:04 UTC  

wat

2018-02-14 01:54:09 UTC  

Geh, yes, indeed I was.

2018-02-14 01:54:23 UTC  

otherkin

2018-02-14 01:54:53 UTC  

Nid, I was simply bored.

2018-02-14 01:55:22 UTC  

It's one point on which me and an ethnonat agree

2018-02-14 01:56:18 UTC  

But furthermore it's a counterpoint to your statement, Civic Nationalism would not allow for mass immigration

2018-02-14 01:56:18 UTC  

One issue with an ethnostate, especially when it comes to smaller countries, are concerns of genetic diversity.