Message from @RyeNorth
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Essentially, the propositions are there to give people a chance to help steer the party
i would say no to almost all of the democrat questions based on lack of context or because there is something in there that i would not want.
Right?
but they have to word it in that sneaky way to get people to say yes to it.
It's scary as fuck to me.
take number 3 for example... the healthcare one...
i live in a country with kinda universal healthcare and i really appreciate that and would not want to get rid of that but the question is so vague without any information how to implement it that i could not say yes to that...
(kinda universal: universal healthcare as a base and private healthcare if you get to a certain income or are self employed)
The dems have been pushing us towards single-payer only healthcare for years.
Also, in the US, Medicare isn't universally accepted, because they bounce checks.
the last one is not something that would happen here
we don't have "one universal" healthcare provider... anyone can choose theirs, they have to accept you and there is a fixed percentage that everyone pays from their income (or it will be paid by the state if you are unemployed)
We all pay medicare regardless.
there is a list of services that every healthcare provider has to provide but they can offer more services either for free or as a paid service (for example "dental" is included but you can get a premium service to get better quality dentures)
Also, the funny thing about #12 on that list, Texas is considered one of the best places to start a business because of our tax system, and the fact that our budget actually comes with a surplus.
number 12 says absolutely nothing
oh, that's on the Democrat one.
'Right to Fair Taxation'.
that could literally mean everyone pays everything they own to the state.
They've been fighting to add a state income tax for years.
just add it?
without cutting taxes somewhere else?
well, yeah.
okay...
It's our right to be taxed more.
In our state, we pay a sales tax, and a property tax.
In other states, you pay a state income tax, a state sales tax, a state property tax, in addition to the standard Federal income tax.
The system here works, because the money we spend gets taxed anyway, and the money made becomes money spent.
the tax income of the state should be equal the funds needed for the state to do its job - just adding a tax would defeat that purpose if you don't lack funds at the moment.
Well, that's just the thing
they're trying to make the government do more stuff
to me there are very specific things i want the government to do... some will make me sound like a socialist to some people 😄
Also, #11 is troublesome. By 'Workforce solutions', in that context, they're talking about ways of letting illegal immigrants work more jobs without consequences to the employers.
Most illegal immigrants in the United States work for less than minimum wage, though.
number 11 is self defeating. legal immigrants are either already citizens or on a work visa and already have jobs. illegal immigrants are, by definition, not law abiding.
Mmhmm
But see, the worse thing is
If you're in support of Illegal Immigrants working American jobs, there are two possible things wrong with that
first, it could be argued that you're in support of a permanent underclass that can work undesirable jobs for less-than-minimum wage
In which case, the argument for 'undocumented workers' in the modern era is the same argument made for slaves pre civil-war.