Message from @Dr.Wol
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and the people called a referendum vote here
and the "no Ukraine support" won
next thing the government decides to ignore the referndum because its non binding, and now wants to remove it at all because "It gives the people the idea they're not being listened to"
Well NO SHIT, if we vote and you're not listening, what a surprise?
the only good thing is that this government is causing a massive backlash,
Because a new right-wing party is exploding in popularity and members
It got 1 senate seat last election, and its currently the 2nd largest party in the country
Every time I asked my girlfriend 'what's wrong', she'd respond 'You keep ignoring me!', so I stopped asking her what is wrong.
exactly
I don't know WHY she's mad at me...
but that right wing party was founded 2 years ago, joined only in last years election
now its the 2nd largest party in the country, so hopefully next election the Netherlands will become right-wing
I want a Donald Trump in Europe 😛
or Vladimir Putin
I'll take either over Merkel
Right wing Netherlands...
haha
oh absolutely
I mean, that's yet another point
If you oppress a group, they rise up against the oppressor after a while.
And that's the problem we have stateside
we've got two groups equally gathering their oppression points
yes
and then a vast sea of us in the middle, watching the other two groups like a mexican standoff.
but thats why big government can turn bad really fast
Its again the central power argument we talked about earlier
Capitalism, no central power
so bring back the Whig party in America 😛
Most hilariously, evidence from the last election shows that Russia played both sides, and that every move they've made has been to sew division...
eugh, the Muuh Russia debate 😛
and so all of this division that's coming up, does that mean that Russia is actually winning?
heres my take on it
If russia had the majority of impact
then Putin has won
Russia stuck 10,000 dollar in ads durign the election (supposedly)
And then succeded
Hillary stuck 200 million in campaign ads in Florida alone
and lost
All secret services in the US have 0 evidence russia "succesfully" meddled
so if 10,000 dollars untracable with 0 evidence swung this election
then Russia has just won
theres no coming back from that
not to mention
Brexit was supposedly a russian thing
Le-Pen in France nearly winning
Geert Wilders here in netherlands becoming the 3rd largest party
Poland
Afd in Germany
oh yeah, I know they're being used as a scapegoat
that's the thing, though
there's the scapegoat agenda
and the actual agenda
Oh, Russia wants to support the Right Wing candidates only!
well, the actual agenda failed
Russia being a scapegoat is the "establishment" not willing to accept that their own failed policies and ways are crashing down
They're deluting themselves for having failed, because "They knew it all, they brought the world greatness, woo woo, they can't possibly lose to this"
nooooooo, all the evidence shows that Russia wants to divide cohesive western societies... and on a meta level, by making that accusation, you're an unwitting pawn of Russia.