Message from @Arch-Fiend

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2018-03-23 01:53:20 UTC  

In my opinion, rights holders should be the one with the burden of proof

2018-03-23 01:53:24 UTC  

im not saying i want them to do it, but im saying i think that copyright will try to argue they should do it

2018-03-23 01:53:25 UTC  

^ ^ ^

2018-03-23 01:54:13 UTC  

If you own the rights to some music, it's on you to prove that it's not being used according to fair use

2018-03-23 01:54:23 UTC  

Mmmhmm

2018-03-23 01:54:25 UTC  

I'm a photographer

2018-03-23 01:54:36 UTC  

and one thing that I do with any photo I put on social media

2018-03-23 01:54:38 UTC  

I find places and ways

2018-03-23 01:54:50 UTC  

Same with movies, photos, etc.

2018-03-23 01:54:52 UTC  

to put watermarks on a photo in a way that won't be noticed unless you're SPECIFICALLY looking for it.

2018-03-23 01:54:58 UTC  

i think at some point they will win that arguement consitering that if youtube has the power to enforce the copyright even more than they currently do and youtube doesent then they can argue youtube is knowingly not using their full power to enforce their rights on their platform

2018-03-23 01:55:04 UTC  

but if someone were to use my photo without my permission

2018-03-23 01:55:08 UTC  

and think that they'll get away with it

2018-03-23 01:55:10 UTC  

they won't.

2018-03-23 01:55:22 UTC  

you have to understand the rights of individuals are secondary to the rights of business in the usa

2018-03-23 01:55:31 UTC  

First, the photo I post is cropped. Second, it has a watermark with my company's name

2018-03-23 01:55:38 UTC  

and google/youtube is a usa business

2018-03-23 01:55:40 UTC  

very VERY faintly, hidden in a shadow.

2018-03-23 01:56:09 UTC  

I agree, Corporatism is a problem.

2018-03-23 01:57:49 UTC  

thats why im saying youtube is in trouble because i think youtube will have to face giving the power of indiscriminent bots to the hands of copyright enforcers or have those enforcers try to get safe harbor pulled out from under them and the reason this is even a problem is because youtube is creating more and more accurate bot ai's to monitor youtube for their revinue stream

2018-03-23 01:58:31 UTC  

the best case scenario youtube has is the former and i dont think we have any idea just how much that will change things

2018-03-23 01:58:47 UTC  

most of my music playlists wil lbe gone im sure

2018-03-23 01:59:03 UTC  

I think I see your point.

2018-03-23 01:59:47 UTC  

Youtube being TOO MUCH of an information company should theoretically open it up to litigation...?

2018-03-23 02:00:01 UTC  

i think so

2018-03-23 02:00:20 UTC  

Also, probably not as far as the music thing goes

2018-03-23 02:00:26 UTC  

they DO already have a copyright bot as far as music goes

2018-03-23 02:00:37 UTC  

at some point they will have perfect control of the curation of the platform, so other people will want that for their own interests and have legal means to fight for it

2018-03-23 02:00:56 UTC  

I actually had a correspondence with 'CD Baby', a sync license company, on this matter.

2018-03-23 02:01:12 UTC  

their music bot is terrible then

2018-03-23 02:01:13 UTC  

I was wanting to use a song by Shawn James for a project

2018-03-23 02:01:26 UTC  

because i know the stuff i listen to isint public archive

2018-03-23 02:01:52 UTC  

those bots will get better

2018-03-23 02:01:56 UTC  

I asked them about getting a license to use it. One of the things they told me was that I could just use their music

2018-03-23 02:02:03 UTC  

but the music would be tagged automatically

2018-03-23 02:02:13 UTC  

and the money from that video would go directly to them instead of to me

2018-03-23 02:02:22 UTC  

and the fight between transformitive media and lawyers who dont give a shit will never end

2018-03-23 02:02:37 UTC  

so the bots getting more accurate isint a good thing in my opinion

2018-03-23 02:02:42 UTC  

hell, right now I'm working on licenses with BMI, ASCAP, and SESAC for my radio station

2018-03-23 02:02:50 UTC  

The interesting thing is

2018-03-23 02:02:53 UTC  

not in the american context atleast