Message from @Ghostler
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I'm curious who the "Other" category classify themselves as, and why they voted 1/3 for Trump.
The regressives have a point there though becase like White people Asians have a IQ higher than the 90's so they can maintain a functioning society and do well in the society unlike Blacks and Hispanics.
I think Mexico would be doing pretty well if not for their gang problem.
Presumably because of the same problem our law enforcement has: they can't just go in and root out the gangs.
Your right but you need to understant that they have a gang problem because of the large hispanic population.
I'm not gonna say why one way or another, you could be right, it could be something else. By all rights if Mexico were functioning "properly" given all the resources they have down there, they should have an amazing and thriving economy.
Plus, a lot of the cartels down there have a lot of money. If I remember, it's much the same problem we have here in the US where outside forces have a lot of money and influence over the government. In our case it's corporations and companies, whereas down there I think it's the cartels.
In fact, that's why I fully support the construction of the wall and much harsher immigration policies to keep illegal immigrants out.
"Youtube are great.. They sent me an ipod touch!" - Tim Pool
Yes, I think building the wall and keeping the illegals out would be the single greatest humanitarian thing we can do for Mexico.
I think were the US not being used as a 'pressure valve' to allow people to flee, people who would otherwise have risen up and overthrown their government by now, Mexico could very well have already been very different than it is today.
Basically, they need a second Mexican Revolution.
*tfw someone's been typing for about 10 minutes*
With the wealth thing why is Iceland wealthy fo most of there history all they had was a fishing industry, domestic farming industry and small scale tourism. They are wealthy becase of the people. Mexico has a large land area with lots of resources like oil, silver, copper, salt, fluorspar, iron, manganese, sulfur, phosphate, zinc, tungsten, molybdenum, mercury, gold, and gypsum but they are poor because the people have a lower average IQ. I agree that money is never good in the political system weather foreign or domestic and we need to de what we can to prevent it being a problem. Other majorty non-white countries in Latin America have similar problems with cartels and I agree that the war on durges is a cause of the problem problem but you need to ask yourslef why is Latin America so corrupt in the frist place. I think it's becase of the large non white population if you don't belive me it seems to be that the least corrupt countries are the whitest ones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index
I agree that illegal immigration is never a good thing for a country who ever if you kicked out all the illegals America will still be majorty non-white if present trends continue so you are still going to be greater mexico anyway. I don't see how having another Mexican revolution qould help even if the right people win whats to stop Mexico becoming shit again?
Well, real quick about Iceland: much of their wealth is through imports. In fact, just in January of 2018 alone imports accounted for about 42% of the nation's wealth.
But I'm not an economist, that was just the first thing that came to mind.
And I was only talking about the Mexican crisis in a void, not how that problem spills over into the US, because I see the illegal immigration as a symptom of that. I wasn't even contesting your claim about Mexico also possibly being bad because of the populations average IQ, and even acknowledged that "you could be right" about it.
I was just saying that building the wall and strengthening immigration policies *and enforcement* is probably the best thing we can do for Mexico and give them the best opportunity to reform. Now, if we did all of that and they still did nothing about their situation, then it's safe to say it's entirely on them at that point.
The issue of the hispanic population growing in the US I'm not denying exists, I just for the sake of the conversation about Mexico was just separating it for right now.
I was just saying that the situation in Mexico is so bad right now that there is nothing that can fix it at this point other than just a full-scale revolution, that's all.
Whether they actually conduct such a revolution is entirely up to them.
Wait, if wealth is imported that means Iceland is selling stuff, right?
...like I said, I'm not an economist...
Well, that's the US public education system for you right there. lol
Even back in my day they were more worried about teaching kids about how great islam was than more practical stuff.
Like economics.
My point with Iceland was that a country can be wealthy without many natural resources. I think another good exsample is Japan which like Iceland doesn't have many natural resources and has natural disasters every few years or so and dosen't even grow enough food to feed themsleves but because they Japanes IQ is so high they are successful.
As I said earlier I agree that illegal immigration is not a good thing I wouldn't care if it was illegal Canadian immigration or Rusian it would still be bad for America. I have to dissagree with you that a revolution would help Mexico no system of government tried in Mexico has made it anywhere as prosperous as Texsa. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_between_U.S._states_and_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
Mexico will never be as prospeous untill the Mexican people improve.
Mexico would be even worse off were it not for the huge amount of money that people send from the US to Mexico--more than $26 billion during Jan-Nov 2017 http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/02/news/economy/mexico-remittances/index.html
Basically, "Mexico would be worse off if it weren't leeching off of the US's economy."
That's pretty evident.
I'd rather Mexico be a viable country and trade partner than one that is practically being subsidized by the United States and dragging us down with them.
Very true mate but you have to rember that alot of hispanics want to regain the forma Mexican territories it has lost to America to either rejoin Mexico or create a new country and with demographic trends I don't see how you will stop them.
I wouldn't say "alot" believe that (I am just guessing though) but there is a determined group that do agree to the whole Aztlan movement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztl%C3%A1n#Use_by_the_Chicano_movement
@JadenFrostwolf Whether you like it or not America is already subsidizing Mexico and it's still shit. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/01/26/us-aid-320-million-mexico-wall-trump-specialists-backfire/97103024/
Yeah.
Well, whether it be from an active coordinated effort or through sheer coincidence, the effect is going to be the same: those states/territories are going to become majority hispanic.
California is leading the way
(into the shitter)
Both demographically and econonically/politically
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Again, though, that doesn't detract from my point that I'd rather Mexico be a legitimate country with it's own flourishing economy and an actual trade partner and just justifies that desire.
But that's just not gonna happen without massive changes, changes which I don't see as likely to happen 'on their own.'