Message from @Arch-Fiend

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2018-05-22 02:06:23 UTC  

I can't say for Kenya because I haven't been there but if it's simlar to Tanzania then it's just in the proces of becoming less western every year.

2018-05-22 02:07:08 UTC  

i would seriously argue that the average values of a mexican immigrant are probly closer to that of a traditional american than a member of african american culture

2018-05-22 02:07:27 UTC  

A person is similar to a country?

2018-05-22 02:07:45 UTC  

i said a traditional american, thats not a country is it?

2018-05-22 02:07:52 UTC  

Kanye, not Kenya

2018-05-22 02:07:58 UTC  

oh woops

2018-05-22 02:08:22 UTC  

you know, the Rapper?

2018-05-22 02:08:29 UTC  

Yes because most Mexicans are mixed race or white so of corse their more similar to white Americans then blacks would be.

2018-05-22 02:10:21 UTC  

nigga just because your white doesent mean your a monolith just the same as being mexican does not make being a mexican a monolith. their blood has very little to do with why they are culturally very similar to americans, the reason they are culturally very similar to amercians is because their infastructure is western, their religion is western, their political system is western, their language is western. it doesent have shit to do with their genetics

2018-05-22 02:11:00 UTC  

I disagree with you biology is the most important thing.

2018-05-22 02:11:36 UTC  

of course it is, because without it its almost like your whole world view falls apart.

2018-05-22 02:11:48 UTC  

just like without victim classes, an SJW's world view falls apart

2018-05-22 02:11:58 UTC  

Yes that is very true.

2018-05-22 02:12:17 UTC  

genetics predisposes certain characteristics not ALL characteristics. its like your chemical make up. one races chemical make up is different than another HOWEVER chemicals dont have any reaction unless you put them in an envirnment with other forces or chemicals to react with. the envirnment of mexico is western to the extent any genetic predisposition they have is practicly ineffectual to their value system

2018-05-22 02:13:13 UTC  

it much easier to explain why some people of a certain race succeed is because they assimilate into the culture rather than try to explain why suddenly genetics just ceased to an issue

2018-05-22 02:14:35 UTC  

White Mexicans are western becuase they are capable and alot of south America seems western because most countries in south America are run by white people but the mixed race and other races in south America aren't and don't want to be.

2018-05-22 02:14:39 UTC  

aussie you realize that african americans are very different than africans? and americans are very different than europeans, like europeans complain about us americans and how differnt we are all the damn time

2018-05-22 02:15:24 UTC  

Yes I know African Americans have some European admixture while blacks in Africa don't.

2018-05-22 02:15:59 UTC  

nigga they arnt white mexicans or white south americans, they are just mexicans and south americans. the only amount of white running those places is the cia and americans economy because we built up industry way before they did because we had better oppertunitys

2018-05-22 02:16:19 UTC  

african americans are very differnt than south africans

2018-05-22 02:16:30 UTC  

its culture, not race

2018-05-22 02:16:56 UTC  

I disagree with you there, because culture is downstream from race.

2018-05-22 02:17:26 UTC  

that doesent make race a more powerful force of determining social characteristics

2018-05-22 02:17:39 UTC  

I think it is.

2018-05-22 02:17:42 UTC  

culture is formed from groups of people. It is completely unrelated to race.

2018-05-22 02:17:49 UTC  

i mean the problem is your wrong my dude

2018-05-22 02:17:56 UTC  

If it isn't then why is Liberia african and not western?

2018-05-22 02:18:11 UTC  

you can get different cultures from people of the same race just by changing where they live

2018-05-22 02:18:27 UTC  

like literally. the british empire was very different than the romanians, and different than the greeks, and different than the italians

2018-05-22 02:18:48 UTC  

I feel like I've seen this same argument take place a few times before...

2018-05-22 02:19:03 UTC  

if anything europe has become more hemogenious culturally since wolrd war 2 than its ever been sence the roman expansion

2018-05-22 02:19:15 UTC  

I know national cultures are different from civilizational cultures.

2018-05-22 02:20:01 UTC  

Culturally speaking yes Europe has done that but not demography.

2018-05-22 02:21:15 UTC  

i dont nessicaraly think its a good thing that europe is so culturally homogenous right now because it leads people thinking culture is not as signifigant (or much more signifigant as it really is) to race

2018-05-22 02:22:32 UTC  

if race came before culture, then Ben Carson would not exist.

2018-05-22 02:22:40 UTC  

I think the cultures of Europe should be preserved and to do that you need to have Europe be European demography.

2018-05-22 02:22:40 UTC  

assuming they are related at all

2018-05-22 02:22:41 UTC  

you dont recongize the extreme differences people who are tought to think differently by the society they live in can have with eachother

2018-05-22 02:23:03 UTC  

Gre I'm talking about trends and averages.

2018-05-22 02:23:52 UTC  

that doesn't work nearly as nicely with genetics as it does with culture

2018-05-22 02:24:38 UTC  

because what are the chances a black guy born in Detroit would assimilate so well and become so successful from a gene pool like that?