Message from @Arch-Fiend

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2018-06-02 00:42:46 UTC  

well by your definition private property is not a thing that can happen.

2018-06-02 00:42:57 UTC  

which means governments really are pointless, as that is there only use

2018-06-02 00:43:16 UTC  

so lets get some more funding to that 8% shall me?

2018-06-02 00:43:32 UTC  

its not my defition

2018-06-02 00:45:29 UTC  

its an observation we both agree on that what private property within a society means is that society gives you the right to prevent people in that society from taking stuff defined as your private property as long as you give labor to the society till the day you die or so long as society can collect for everything defined as private property

2018-06-02 00:46:09 UTC  

i simplfy that as rent

2018-06-02 00:46:26 UTC  

you can call it private property still if you want to though

2018-06-02 00:46:58 UTC  

private property only exists because of governments by the way

2018-06-02 00:47:23 UTC  

governments where formed to protect private property.

2018-06-02 00:47:34 UTC  

because people got tied of always building walls, and needing standing armies

2018-06-02 00:48:14 UTC  

so they said "hey, lets just follow these rules so we can both benefit, rather than point sharp sticks at eachother all day"

2018-06-02 00:48:30 UTC  

they also define private property as well

2018-06-02 00:49:03 UTC  

yes, its all very circular because it was made by humans, for humans, and is kept running with the help of humans

2018-06-02 00:49:23 UTC  

and humans are the source of all our problems

2018-06-02 00:49:49 UTC  

and 99% of the time the source of our solutions

2018-06-02 00:50:12 UTC  

no, 100% of the time the source of our solutions

2018-06-02 00:50:22 UTC  

because we made the problem

2018-06-02 00:50:30 UTC  

sometimes we come up with our own solutions

2018-06-02 00:50:39 UTC  

sometimes wildlife becomes a problem for us

2018-06-02 00:50:44 UTC  

mold sucks

2018-06-02 00:51:11 UTC  

were being pedantic and austistic though now off topic

2018-06-02 00:51:11 UTC  

mold only causes a problem if you decide to remain where mold is

2018-06-02 00:51:53 UTC  

naw, its not austistic to lay out the reasoning for killing all humans

2018-06-02 00:51:59 UTC  

it will solve all humanities problems

2018-06-02 00:52:05 UTC  

its the perfect plan

2018-06-02 00:52:11 UTC  

Thanos didn't go far enough

2018-06-02 00:52:47 UTC  

but back on topic. we have a group of people, all of who apparently don't want to take power from each-other, according to the video we were talking about.

2018-06-02 00:54:08 UTC  

because the easiest way, in his example, to undermined the power of anyone else in the "evil capitalist" group, would be to put funding into growing the 8% so they feel like you are on their side and not part of the rest of the evil capitalist.

2018-06-02 00:54:24 UTC  

one group doesent care (which i think is actually to big)

2018-06-02 00:54:59 UTC  

this in turn, would give reason for the other evil capitalists to stop funding the 8% and instead put funding into an opposition to their group.

2018-06-02 00:55:15 UTC  

which would split the 8% into at least 2 factions

2018-06-02 00:55:25 UTC  

(hey, and now we have republicans and democrats)

2018-06-02 00:56:42 UTC  

the problem with the 8% is that its so indocternated in what the evil capitalist thinks it doesent actually know what its fighting against anymore, it doesent even really know what it stands for, it changes its own ideology and is fractionalized into so many different ideologys that have something in common but rarely actually focus on that and aim outword that it doesent know how to think for itself

2018-06-02 00:57:15 UTC  

thats even worse for the capitalists. because its a weapon any other capitalist can use against them

2018-06-02 00:58:09 UTC  

its being used against other capitalists, but its also very stupid and easly distracted and again capitalists know a more dangerous enemy than eachother

2018-06-02 00:58:35 UTC  

at different times different capitalists have control over the 8%

2018-06-02 00:58:45 UTC  

you see that in what they use to stand against

2018-06-02 00:58:52 UTC  

and how it keeps changing over time

2018-06-02 00:59:27 UTC  

i dont actually believe in a top of the pyramid

2018-06-02 00:59:50 UTC  

i beleive its narrower up there but i think its not lonely

2018-06-02 01:00:06 UTC  

i don't even thing the top is that stagnant