and genocide is bad, period.

The point is the same we both don't like it so what's your point?

we both don't like propaganda.

It depends what the propaganda is promoting.

the spreading of lies, half truths, highly bias conclusions that do not have data to support their causation.

This for example promots the building of the wall on America's southern border which would be good for America thus it is good propaganda.

As I said earlier not all propaganda is based on lies and half truths. Propaganda is just the promotion of an idea, policy, ect.

"information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view."

biased or misleading in nature

I think that you think that people who think like me have to use bad tactics like lies and half truths means we have but don't because we are on the side of truth.

building a wall is based off of speculation, with no evidence showing anything much greater than a fence, which already exists along significant portions of the us boarder.

you use correlation to equal causation.

your typical line of thinking is what made people believe TVs themselves made people fat

You will be biased to towards pro liberalism propaganda. Propaganda isn't a bad thing it just depends on what is being promoted and how.

also is lazy, stopping at answers that feel easy, rather than keep digging to the root cause.

I was using the build the wall poster as evidce that there can be good propaganda.

you share much with the judge who wants to ban kitchen knives and liberals that want to ban guns.

Do you think most people keep digging let alone even care about politics most people don't.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/09/18/only-36-percent-of-americans-can-name-the-three-branches-of-government/?utm_term=.bb63104d7823

and so i should listen to the people who stopped digging and just made up answers because it was easy?

People need to be lead by good people insted of bad people.

to some you are good, to others Bernie is good. who gets to decide who these "good people" are?

Most people just care about their jobs, friends and family they don't care about foreign policy, economics, military, ect.

The thing is most people aren't free thinkers they are followers which is how a functioning society just works.

must people are not raised to be free thinkers

that would be dangerous wouldn't it?

You can't have everyone be a artist, poet, ect. It's just the way people are. It doesn't matter if you rase people to be free thinkers becasue most people won't be even if you raise people that way.

Most people just do what everyone else dose and what the leaders of a society say is good.

and how do you determine who are really "free thinkers"

poets and artists are hardly free thinkers.

If you have good people ruling a society most people will be good that's just the way people are.

take some drugs and anyone can write

what is "good"

People who think for themsleves are free thinkers.

good for me can come at the expense of you

so what is good

What creates a working and moral society is good.

that doesn't mean it is good for me

or even my family

Do you want to live in a society which works and is prosperous?

yes, but what you define as "working" can leave me and my family behind.

invading and taking local resources rather than setting down roots and figuring things out was a "working" and sometimes "prosperous" society.... except for those invaded