Yes I regect equality people aren't the same so it doesn't make sence.

Big business doesn't happen in socialism, its just big government

its why they are so capitalist now

And big government can fuck over whoever it wants

Well at least I finally got him to answer after like 4 attempts over the course of my stay in this server
Now that I know he literally would want me sterilized I think I'll stop talking to him

No I support free enterprise not "capitalism".

Aussie, seems you reject equity, not equality

What do you mean by that?

the problem with most social safety nets is they do not scale at all with their economy. When the economy starts to tank, everything starts to tank. And the government is left trying to fund a system that starts to cost more than it takes in.

That is why we need to sterilize the welfare class.

when the economy starts to go south, that means most of your population

You seem to reject equality of outcomes

which means you are left with no new generations

and suddenly you need to import new workers

In an ethnostate you'd never have freddie mercury

Yes I reject equality of outcomes.

Yes, that's what I said

Equity, is equality of outcome

Equality, is equality of opportunity

It's why the definition of feminism is a lie

I also think that some people are smarter then others which mean that people aren't equal.

sterilize the welfare class means you still have to feed the mouths there, but have little room to grow if/when the economy comes back. More over, those people are either sucking up health care resources, or you start to deny them healthcare and they start dying sooner

By welfare class I mean those people who are incapable of getting jobs.

so you end up left with a rapidly shrinking population that can't even give birth

That is why we need better members of society to have more kids.

There's a difference between people on welfare who are incapable and people on welfare who are lazy pieces of shit

when your economy tanks, which can be from mismanagement all the way to a large natural disaster, that start to snowball into larger and larger parts of your population

Do you accept that everyone must have access to the same opportunities? @Deleted User

Same legal rights, and the sort?

you need a job to be open before you can be capable of getting it

I think people should have the same legal rights but not the same schooling rights. For exaple people who aren't very inteligent shouldn't go to university but should go to trade schools.

this kind of authoritarian designs is part of what makes these systems unstable. 1 small miscalculation, 1 disaster that is larger than expected, and the system collapses

What about people who are physically incapable like Stephen Hawking? Not everyone who's physically impaired is that intelligent

@Grenade123 I know shit can go wrong I just thing the system I support is the best one. I don't think it's perfect.

its not flexible, and when stuff goes wrong it ends poorly for everyone

@Deller If it geneic then yes they should be sterlized. I know there are cases like Stephen Hawking who had a physical disability should be taken care of.

@Grenade123 Our current system isn't flexible and it will lead to the end of the west if it is allowed to continue.

Just curious as what your stances are. I personally think government welfare should be abolished entirely, but I'm not for sterilization.

I have a solution:

it is flexible, or at least much more flexible than yours. however people are trying to remove its flexibility and pulling hard on it.

I don't see why we need public welfare when it can be private charities that help the disabled