Message from @RyeNorth

Discord ID: 476172092484616193


2018-08-06 23:28:41 UTC  

I'm pretty big on the flag and everything, but the pledge and the meaning we put behind the anthem are kind of abominations unto what the US is supposed to be.

2018-08-06 23:29:24 UTC  

First off, the Pledge was actually written and promoted by a legitimate nationalist socialist.

2018-08-06 23:29:41 UTC  

And in it's pre-1932 form, included a roman salute.

2018-08-06 23:30:07 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/476170139176534016/iu.png

2018-08-06 23:30:50 UTC  

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2018-08-06 23:31:07 UTC  

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2018-08-06 23:31:56 UTC  

The whole idea of the United States being 'one nation, indivisible' goes against the founding principles of the united States.

2018-08-06 23:32:27 UTC  

But was inconvenient for socialist rhetoric being spun at the time.

2018-08-06 23:33:31 UTC  

I don't think a national antham can be written by a non-nationalist.

2018-08-06 23:33:45 UTC  

Or else you get canada's that changes every two years.

2018-08-06 23:34:13 UTC  

The Star Spangled Banner wasn't written as a National Anthem.

2018-08-06 23:34:31 UTC  

It wasn't actually made the anthem until 1931

2018-08-06 23:35:04 UTC  

Even though the tune was written in 1773, and the lyrics were composed 1814

2018-08-06 23:35:31 UTC  

Those are all true things.

2018-08-06 23:36:10 UTC  

But it wasn't written by an unpatriotic nihilist.

2018-08-06 23:36:15 UTC  

Oh, sure.

2018-08-06 23:36:28 UTC  

Patriotism and Nationalism aren't inherently bad.

2018-08-06 23:36:39 UTC  

Not in a vacuum.

2018-08-06 23:36:47 UTC  

They only become a problem when paired with policy.

2018-08-06 23:37:15 UTC  

Yeah

2018-08-06 23:37:53 UTC  

When the extent of your nationalism is: Do what I can to make this great nation better

2018-08-06 23:37:58 UTC  

policy written and instigated by fear

2018-08-06 23:37:59 UTC  

It's harmless, at worst.

2018-08-06 23:38:35 UTC  

When you extend that to enforce socialism, or some sort of purity standard, it goes a bit awry.

2018-08-06 23:39:31 UTC  

Bellamy took a backdoor approach to weave ritualistic nationalism into the zeitgeist.

2018-08-06 23:39:44 UTC  

He didn't do it through legal means. He did it through the education system.

2018-08-06 23:39:51 UTC  

Surprise surprise.

2018-08-06 23:40:31 UTC  

One good reason why decentralized education systems are a really good idea.

2018-08-06 23:41:29 UTC  

He actually published instructions for the pledge, etc, in educator's journals.

2018-08-06 23:41:44 UTC  

Sure enough, by ~~1931~~ 1942, it's put into law.

2018-08-06 23:42:06 UTC  

Really makes me wonder, in particular, about the shit being pushed in education *now*

2018-08-06 23:43:07 UTC  

and where that puts us in 40 years.

2018-08-06 23:45:09 UTC  

What about in 80 years? Maybe we'll be right back at ground zero.

2018-08-06 23:45:48 UTC  

*shrug*

2018-08-07 00:04:31 UTC  

I hope not, ground zero smelled terrible

2018-08-07 00:06:10 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/476179209153150976/JPEG_20180806_190529.jpg

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2018-08-07 00:06:30 UTC  

This USB hub stopped working. I just showed my brother the value of going Office Space on crappy electronics.

2018-08-07 00:07:02 UTC  

Maybe it's because it has an arrow through it?

2018-08-07 00:07:17 UTC  

It used to be a USB hub like you...

2018-08-07 00:07:22 UTC  

o no

2018-08-07 00:07:27 UTC  

But then it got an arrow through the PCB