Message from @MaxKolbe
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In any case, those of us who do not accept these claims that atheism is just "lack of belief" or "lack of faith" -- and we have no reason to accept thesee ideological assesrtions--have every right to be mistrustful of people who talk like that. That's all. If he wants UKIP support, it's gonna be an issue for him. Just a fact.
Thats what feminists did by coopting LGBT by creating LGBTQ+
ANd they did the same with atheism by making it a movement and calling it Atheism+
see, this is why the religious people lose me. They go against atheism like it's another religion and alienate everyone that could agree with them
@GingaBomber My read onit, having watched it since it started, is that y ou're right it was always a SocJus movement, at least once the Horsemen and the Internet movement moved in.
The problem is, that identifying it as a movement does not connotate a negative definition
>us
you
That you are against us, call us stupid, etc. is just reason for us to dislike you. That's ntohing personal, but just you talking that way about us is alienating and doesn't exactly make friends.
It was probably just an off color remark
No no, I get along splendidly with Buddhists, Jews, Hindus, Deists, agnostics, and atheists who aren't rude jackholes. My buddy @harmsie the gay atheist anarchist helps out a lot on our server and is one of our best volunteers. He knows how not to be a jerk. 😉
No need to get so defensive over that
you just proved my point, you can't even read the dictionary definition of Atheist. It's like feminazis in denial
Over what?
so if someone who lacks belief in any god isn't an atheist, what the fuck is such a person?
Well, we all have beef with relligion one way or another at some point.
@.B No, because I just pointed out the citation you used doesn't really support you (becuase it doesn't), and gave you other references. Here, here's a serious one:
They explicitely rejected and all but laughed at Identitarian Atheists who tried in vain to get them to accept the "lack of belief" trope.
It started here:
nothing is above being criticised, if criticism is "being a jerk", that's a natural evolution of things
idc where that cult started
you are the one obcessed by it
Sir, when you say religion is for stupid people, religious people have no reason to treat you with any respect or seriousness anymore. I dont' think I'm being confrontational to point that out to you.
He said, that relligion helps stupid people
Not that stupid people are stupid for practicing it
yup
Wouldnt you say that is true?
Dude, it just started with me pointing out that UKIP leadership already knows about Sargon and finds his anti-Catholic and anti-Jew rants disgusting and a real problem for the party. It's all I wanted to say. 😉
`atheism is 100% faith based`
What do you mean by this?
Ugh its the whole is black a color argument
he is being retarded
ignore it
Is the lack of color a color?
@Schedrevka This is probably a conversation best had elsewhere, but you can read this:
Is someone who grows up never hearing the concept of god using faith?
@GingaBomber Yeah, again, not everyone accepts these definitions you're using. But believe whatever you want. 😉
I don't think anyone disagrees with the notion that Sargon might end up being more toxic than helpful for UKIP in the long run
Did you just assume my definition?