@.B No, because I just pointed out the citation you used doesn't really support you (becuase it doesn't), and gave you other references. Here, here's a serious one:

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/#1

They explicitely rejected and all but laughed at Identitarian Atheists who tried in vain to get them to accept the "lack of belief" trope.

It started here:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-9794.html

nothing is above being criticised, if criticism is "being a jerk", that's a natural evolution of things

idc where that cult started

you are the one obcessed by it

Sir, when you say religion is for stupid people, religious people have no reason to treat you with any respect or seriousness anymore. I dont' think I'm being confrontational to point that out to you.

He said, that relligion helps stupid people

Not that stupid people are stupid for practicing it

yup

Wouldnt you say that is true?

Dude, it just started with me pointing out that UKIP leadership already knows about Sargon and finds his anti-Catholic and anti-Jew rants disgusting and a real problem for the party. It's all I wanted to say. 😉

`atheism is 100% faith based`
What do you mean by this?

Ugh its the whole is black a color argument

he is being retarded

ignore it

Is the lack of color a color?

@Schedrevka This is probably a conversation best had elsewhere, but you can read this:

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/#1\

Is someone who grows up never hearing the concept of god using faith?

@GingaBomber Yeah, again, not everyone accepts these definitions you're using. But believe whatever you want. 😉

I don't think anyone disagrees with the notion that Sargon might end up being more toxic than helpful for UKIP in the long run

Did you just assume my definition?

kek

I didnt say what I thought was the definition

Theres a fundamental disagreement here

I'll just leave this here on the definition question.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/#1

And that is what defines faith

There's no faith to be found in "i haven't seen enough evidence for it so don't consider it worth believing in'.

If atheism can be defined as a lack of faith

Yeah, and I'll repeat, I don't accept that definition onf "Faith" and netiehr to millions of others. Y ou can use words however you want but the rest of us don't. It's just a fact.

Does that mean that the purpose of atheism is self defeating if atheism is the lack of faith?

Like, I don't believe in Unicorns either. I believe there's a possibility they could exist hiding in some forest somewhere, but until I see the evidence I don't believe it. Same thing with God/gods.

Is it with faith that I don't believe in unicorns?

no, it's a **MOVEMENT**

get with the times

😏

Yes yes, those of us who know there is a God, who have looked at all the available evidence and come to a rational conclusion about it, don't really think much of the unicorn comparisons either, it means you're not even trying to understand what we think. Feel free to come over to my server or ping me privately, I didn't come here for a religious war, merely to note, Sargon'll be toxic for UKIP if he doesn't change his ways.