Message from @MaxKolbe

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2018-09-10 19:10:25 UTC  

no gods, no higher powers

2018-09-10 19:10:44 UTC  

>ideological atheists
fucking LEL

2018-09-10 19:10:51 UTC  

Its just another label adopted and turned into a movement.

2018-09-10 19:11:08 UTC  

THe Merriam-Webster doesn't support what you're saying, sorry, and neither do most dictionaries. Some will accept the "lack of belief" claim, but it's just a claim, and it falls apart quickly once you analyze it, which is why most serious sources, like the STanford Encyclopedia of Phiosophy, explicitly reject it (as I do).

2018-09-10 19:11:18 UTC  

There is a atheist movement whether or not you like it.

2018-09-10 19:11:31 UTC  

Its just the guise it takes the form of for now

2018-09-10 19:11:41 UTC  

And I bet once the hype is down it will find another host.

2018-09-10 19:11:58 UTC  

In any case, those of us who do not accept these claims that atheism is just "lack of belief" or "lack of faith" -- and we have no reason to accept thesee ideological assesrtions--have every right to be mistrustful of people who talk like that. That's all. If he wants UKIP support, it's gonna be an issue for him. Just a fact.

2018-09-10 19:12:12 UTC  

Thats what feminists did by coopting LGBT by creating LGBTQ+

2018-09-10 19:12:29 UTC  

ANd they did the same with atheism by making it a movement and calling it Atheism+

2018-09-10 19:12:32 UTC  

see, this is why the religious people lose me. They go against atheism like it's another religion and alienate everyone that could agree with them

2018-09-10 19:12:32 UTC  

@GingaBomber My read onit, having watched it since it started, is that y ou're right it was always a SocJus movement, at least once the Horsemen and the Internet movement moved in.

2018-09-10 19:12:54 UTC  

@.B Then stay against us. [shrug]

2018-09-10 19:13:02 UTC  

The problem is, that identifying it as a movement does not connotate a negative definition

2018-09-10 19:13:05 UTC  

>us
you

2018-09-10 19:13:24 UTC  

That you are against us, call us stupid, etc. is just reason for us to dislike you. That's ntohing personal, but just you talking that way about us is alienating and doesn't exactly make friends.

2018-09-10 19:13:57 UTC  

It was probably just an off color remark

2018-09-10 19:14:00 UTC  

No no, I get along splendidly with Buddhists, Jews, Hindus, Deists, agnostics, and atheists who aren't rude jackholes. My buddy @harmsie the gay atheist anarchist helps out a lot on our server and is one of our best volunteers. He knows how not to be a jerk. 😉

2018-09-10 19:14:03 UTC  

No need to get so defensive over that

2018-09-10 19:14:09 UTC  

you just proved my point, you can't even read the dictionary definition of Atheist. It's like feminazis in denial

2018-09-10 19:14:11 UTC  

Over what?

2018-09-10 19:14:27 UTC  

so if someone who lacks belief in any god isn't an atheist, what the fuck is such a person?

2018-09-10 19:14:33 UTC  

Well, we all have beef with relligion one way or another at some point.

2018-09-10 19:15:05 UTC  

@.B No, because I just pointed out the citation you used doesn't really support you (becuase it doesn't), and gave you other references. Here, here's a serious one:

2018-09-10 19:15:20 UTC  

They explicitely rejected and all but laughed at Identitarian Atheists who tried in vain to get them to accept the "lack of belief" trope.

2018-09-10 19:15:29 UTC  

It started here:

2018-09-10 19:15:29 UTC  

nothing is above being criticised, if criticism is "being a jerk", that's a natural evolution of things

2018-09-10 19:15:47 UTC  

idc where that cult started

2018-09-10 19:15:53 UTC  

you are the one obcessed by it

2018-09-10 19:15:54 UTC  

Sir, when you say religion is for stupid people, religious people have no reason to treat you with any respect or seriousness anymore. I dont' think I'm being confrontational to point that out to you.

2018-09-10 19:16:08 UTC  

He said, that relligion helps stupid people

2018-09-10 19:16:19 UTC  

Not that stupid people are stupid for practicing it

2018-09-10 19:16:26 UTC  

yup

2018-09-10 19:16:27 UTC  

Wouldnt you say that is true?

2018-09-10 19:16:27 UTC  

Dude, it just started with me pointing out that UKIP leadership already knows about Sargon and finds his anti-Catholic and anti-Jew rants disgusting and a real problem for the party. It's all I wanted to say. 😉

2018-09-10 19:16:30 UTC  

`atheism is 100% faith based`
What do you mean by this?

2018-09-10 19:16:45 UTC  

Ugh its the whole is black a color argument

2018-09-10 19:16:48 UTC  

he is being retarded

2018-09-10 19:16:51 UTC  

ignore it