Sir, when you say religion is for stupid people, religious people have no reason to treat you with any respect or seriousness anymore. I dont' think I'm being confrontational to point that out to you.

He said, that relligion helps stupid people

Not that stupid people are stupid for practicing it

yup

Wouldnt you say that is true?

Dude, it just started with me pointing out that UKIP leadership already knows about Sargon and finds his anti-Catholic and anti-Jew rants disgusting and a real problem for the party. It's all I wanted to say. 😉

`atheism is 100% faith based`
What do you mean by this?

Ugh its the whole is black a color argument

he is being retarded

ignore it

Is the lack of color a color?

@Schedrevka This is probably a conversation best had elsewhere, but you can read this:

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/#1\

Is someone who grows up never hearing the concept of god using faith?

@GingaBomber Yeah, again, not everyone accepts these definitions you're using. But believe whatever you want. 😉

I don't think anyone disagrees with the notion that Sargon might end up being more toxic than helpful for UKIP in the long run

Did you just assume my definition?

kek

I didnt say what I thought was the definition

Theres a fundamental disagreement here

I'll just leave this here on the definition question.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/#1

And that is what defines faith

There's no faith to be found in "i haven't seen enough evidence for it so don't consider it worth believing in'.

If atheism can be defined as a lack of faith

Yeah, and I'll repeat, I don't accept that definition onf "Faith" and netiehr to millions of others. Y ou can use words however you want but the rest of us don't. It's just a fact.

Does that mean that the purpose of atheism is self defeating if atheism is the lack of faith?

Like, I don't believe in Unicorns either. I believe there's a possibility they could exist hiding in some forest somewhere, but until I see the evidence I don't believe it. Same thing with God/gods.

Is it with faith that I don't believe in unicorns?

no, it's a **MOVEMENT**

get with the times

😏

Yes yes, those of us who know there is a God, who have looked at all the available evidence and come to a rational conclusion about it, don't really think much of the unicorn comparisons either, it means you're not even trying to understand what we think. Feel free to come over to my server or ping me privately, I didn't come here for a religious war, merely to note, Sargon'll be toxic for UKIP if he doesn't change his ways.

Well though, there is one thing i think everyone agrees with

you unicorn identitarian!!

is that the real dean esmeme?

lack of belief in the claim "unicons exist" makes you an atheist in regards to unicorns existing

Atheism+ is a movement populated by people who think the lack of faith in a higher power

Makes them logical and therefore intellectual

>Yes yes, those of us who know there is a God
[Citation Needed]

Also are rather pretentious.