Is someone who grows up never hearing the concept of god using faith?

@GingaBomber Yeah, again, not everyone accepts these definitions you're using. But believe whatever you want. 😉

I don't think anyone disagrees with the notion that Sargon might end up being more toxic than helpful for UKIP in the long run

Did you just assume my definition?

kek

I didnt say what I thought was the definition

Theres a fundamental disagreement here

I'll just leave this here on the definition question.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/#1

And that is what defines faith

There's no faith to be found in "i haven't seen enough evidence for it so don't consider it worth believing in'.

If atheism can be defined as a lack of faith

Yeah, and I'll repeat, I don't accept that definition onf "Faith" and netiehr to millions of others. Y ou can use words however you want but the rest of us don't. It's just a fact.

Does that mean that the purpose of atheism is self defeating if atheism is the lack of faith?

Like, I don't believe in Unicorns either. I believe there's a possibility they could exist hiding in some forest somewhere, but until I see the evidence I don't believe it. Same thing with God/gods.

Is it with faith that I don't believe in unicorns?

no, it's a **MOVEMENT**

get with the times

😏

Yes yes, those of us who know there is a God, who have looked at all the available evidence and come to a rational conclusion about it, don't really think much of the unicorn comparisons either, it means you're not even trying to understand what we think. Feel free to come over to my server or ping me privately, I didn't come here for a religious war, merely to note, Sargon'll be toxic for UKIP if he doesn't change his ways.

Well though, there is one thing i think everyone agrees with

you unicorn identitarian!!

is that the real dean esmeme?

lack of belief in the claim "unicons exist" makes you an atheist in regards to unicorns existing

Atheism+ is a movement populated by people who think the lack of faith in a higher power

Makes them logical and therefore intellectual

>Yes yes, those of us who know there is a God
[Citation Needed]

Also are rather pretentious.

Nothing on the normal athiests.

Atheism+ was originally just the Atheist Movement, which was always a SocJus movement, and Atheism+ was the SocJus purge of everybody who wasn't down with the rest of the agenda. It's pretty classic.

Cooption man

This isn't a war it's just a discussion. I don't think any less of you for your beliefs and am not out to make you look like a bad person. I just want to understand where you're coming from and explain my view as well.

They did it with the alphabet soup movement

And then BLM

And then they combined it to become

Well is it appropriate to keep using Tim's server and this channel? I dont' want to derail/fight.

LGBTQB+ something

You know why people use shitpost to discuss right?

Because everyone can post pics

So we can say anything?

ANd theres no timer