Message from @Poppy Rider
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOYgz4tpNA4 this gets grim, apparently his stepson just ODed on chinese painkillers
i don like war but why not make sick AMV's out of it tbh
my pp go hard when i see good engineering
Most people hate war as well. But it doesn't stop us from going to air shows in awe at machines of death.
death delivered from 30,000 feet, but god it sounds cool.
going to air shows or studying air combat isn't the pursuit of death
my issue is the confusion some people cling to with it
you statement (probably unintentional on your part) typifies it
to that i'd point out there is a huge difference between the desire to blatantly kill, and the desire to improve, out-smart, and survive
In the end, to kill
I read a book about the history and progress of guns when I was younger. One line that I'll never forget 'this gun was designed to kill as many people as fast as possible'
You are arguing the difference between defence/offence.
militaries run on the assumption that all other militaries will have their same tech within 15 years thats wehy the west keeps pushing ahead with R&D, to stay ahead of the game
I doesn't change the fact that as a species we have strived to find more efficient and elaborate ways to kill each other.
Starting with our fists and teeth and finishing with dropping the power of a star on a city.
@Poppy Rider we dont care about elaporate, just efficient
the nukes though brought peace not global destruction. MAD is the most effective peace keeping force in history
sorry I dont get what you mean?
we dont do that any more
most countries in the west dont even practice the death penalty
oh i get ya
yes that was elaborate
thats why we switched to firing squad, electrocution ect
It was a spectacle. Not just an execution.
you are right
it was used as a public specticle but also as a deterent
but at the time there were many wars going on and the populace was exposed to the horrors of war regularly so the punnishments needed to be more barbaric that every day life. not that im agreeing with it
I'm not saying Nukes are bad. I'm saying that we have put an awful lot of work in to figuring out how to kill people. We have put our best minds to the tesk for it. And it is not sick to marvel at the feat achieved.
again, you are correct
the desire to become the best pilot, or marksman etc is not systemic of murder. the initial roots take hold through need of survival, that is my argument and it can be seen repeatedly based off the aces and sharp shooters of any era @Poppy Rider .... I'd point out that i'm sure in the concentration camps of germany there were people who had higher kill counts then any of those people, but me and you both know those people aren't embraced or remembered and its not because 'they are horrible racist fuckfaces', its because they had no talent that let them survive in a all-out war situation.
Yes you had some snipers/pilots etc who had a thirst for blood, but this was repeatedly rooted in memories of lost brothers, not in the desire alone to kill
sadly its easy to view history through todays standards and (correctly) call it barbaric but we didn't live at those times so dont understand the pressures they faced
I was at an air show a few years back and the Typhoo flew over and everyone got excited. My mate turned to me and said 'yeah, it'd be a different story if we were in Iraq.'
your mate is emo
and you shoulda punched him
hahaha
ya duh thats the literally rooted in surviving big guy