Message from @Mr. Nessel

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2020-02-11 17:11:38 UTC  

And yes we need to look inside atm

2020-02-11 17:12:17 UTC  

As far as colonialism etc. is concerned I don't like mistreating subjects and whatnot

2020-02-11 17:12:27 UTC  

There's a respectable way to go about things

2020-02-11 17:13:00 UTC  

is war mistreatment?

2020-02-11 17:13:23 UTC  

Depends on how it is waged

2020-02-11 17:13:38 UTC  

Involving civillians isn't ok

2020-02-11 17:14:48 UTC  

what if you just fight the fighters and give ppl a chance to leave to some third country

2020-02-11 17:15:57 UTC  

I support giving them a chance to vacate places when feasable but of course that rarely will result in all leaving

2020-02-11 17:16:48 UTC  

Looking more at it actually seems like one of the generals in Namibia was genocidal and there was killing of unarmed people

2020-02-11 17:17:11 UTC  

german general?

2020-02-11 17:17:23 UTC  

Yeah Lothar von Trotha

2020-02-11 17:17:42 UTC  

Had the army occupy water places

2020-02-11 17:18:09 UTC  

that was my starting assumption, i dont think my father would have made a big deal out of it if it was just combatants

2020-02-11 17:18:18 UTC  

Then as the Herero were starved and dehydrated he killed them many of them being unarmed or women/children

2020-02-11 17:19:00 UTC  

I was thinking it's a bit messy because the actually armed people were taking their whole families with them

2020-02-11 17:20:40 UTC  

if you actually take them close to the battlefield then dont be surprised about what happens

2020-02-11 17:21:42 UTC  

It used to be standard practice during more primitive times actually

2020-02-11 17:21:59 UTC  

People would always take their families and whatnot on campaign

2020-02-11 17:22:31 UTC  

I think Alexander the great was actually the one who ended that which allowed him to sweep through Persia much more easily

2020-02-11 17:24:14 UTC  

conquering vast swaths of land seems kinda pointless, you can never occupy it for more than a few years because that takes way too many men

2020-02-11 17:24:43 UTC  

They could by using locals

2020-02-11 17:24:54 UTC  

The empire broke up because of Antipater though

2020-02-11 17:25:16 UTC  

Killed Alexander's son so the empire ended up split amongst the Diadochi

2020-02-11 17:25:32 UTC  

Which lead to hellenism spreading to India and whatnot

2020-02-11 17:27:36 UTC  

i only read alexanders wikipedia article on a train ride so im not too familiar

2020-02-11 17:28:20 UTC  

the whole expansion into india went pretty poorly didnt it

2020-02-11 17:28:23 UTC  

Basically Alexander just took over the preexisting Persian satrapy system

2020-02-11 17:28:39 UTC  

The expansion into India didn't happen at all

2020-02-11 17:28:45 UTC  

Soldiers mutinied

2020-02-11 17:29:04 UTC  

But under the Seleucids they tried I think

2020-02-11 17:29:11 UTC  

Ended up in some sor tof settlement

2020-02-11 17:29:15 UTC  

well "Feldzug", i couldnt think of a proper translation

2020-02-11 17:29:22 UTC  

Much later there were Indo-Greek kingdoms

2020-02-11 17:29:46 UTC  

The campaign ended before the Indus river

2020-02-11 17:30:04 UTC  

Alexander wanted to go further but his soldiers refused basically

2020-02-12 20:02:24 UTC  

Is race a factor to this? Should we support free lunches for people who can't afford? Note that the person who made the video is a leftist remainer who used to be more left wing centrist and I don't even know his other views on immigration anymore. That said, the majority of his followers in the comments are far leftist remainers who don't wish to blame changing demographics.
https://youtu.be/NFp29pXZv1Y