Message from @Iron Nation
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I wouldn't call it a chicken
Why?
Because it's a fertilized egg
Not an animal
Obviously at some point it does become a chicken
The egg stage is just the early stage ( one might say larval stage :^) ) of the chicken. The egg is a evolutionary protective adaptation for the animal inside which permits it safety to grow and mature.
The egg shell is just like a playpen for a baby chicken basically
Is a semen half a person then?
Its a necessary ingredient to begin human life
Then so is a zygote
A zygote is a very young human
That's nonsense
The human lifespan covers the moment of cell fertilization to the moment of death
It's hard to draw a line Kermit
Your life doesn't start 9 months after conception lol
No more than you're alive 9 months after death
Life is not personhood
A goldfish isn't a person just because it's alive
Right personhood is just the social recognition of a life like a human life
No
You can just legally take away anyone's personhood but that doesn't change the facts of their being alive etc
Personhood is entirely separate from being alive
Somebody who is braindead is alive
But lacks personhood for the moment
Well you couldn't say "somebody" you'd have to say "something"
A baby can be born and survive outside of the womb earlier than 9 months
In any case if someone is braindead yeah people often revoke their personhood
If a braindead human doesn't ever wake up again you are in essence talking about a corpse
That depends on your values really
So yes it's a thing at that point
Of course I know they sometimes do wake up
But I'm saying if you had perfect knowledge of it
That's just the narcissism of the brain talking
The brain is a very self-obsessed organ
Because it is the most important part of the body
Maybe if you're a liberal :^)
There are many animals who thrive with rudimentary brains and much more important developed organs
Yes but worms do thrive with just a few nerve cells. Do worms posess personhood?
Obviously not
That's because personhood is, god help me, a social construct - we would recognize worm personhood if we socially valued worms or worm* qualities
But we don't