It's said they were jsut shepherds/farmers before they domesticated the horse

tfw all churches here are jewed

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/a-fetus-that-was-born/

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I'm anti abortion generally but the sentiment there seems similar to magical dirt citizenship thinking

You aren't some random nationality because you fell out of lady across a certain geographic line and you aren't alive or a person or whatever because you fell out of a vagina

LMAO

skellington is still a fetus

yes

I think some CNN reporters need to be aborted very post birth

yes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/138454000273063936/681999075717152777/image0.jpg

Yeah the "post-partum abortion" meme is really just infanticide

As soon as the fetus is outside of the body the pregnancy is effectively over, so at that point you aren't aborting a pregnancy, you're just killing undesirable offspring

bundle of cells that has exited the womb you mean

There is a discussion to be had about when personhood begins. I don't like abortions of healthy white fetuses without good reasons (the vast majority of cases is for shitty reasons) like having been raped regardless of the fetus being a person or not

Personhood should probably begin at conception as a general rule

Seems like it makes the most sense

I think that doesn't really make sense

A fertilized egg isn't a chicken

Technically its just a very young chicken

I wouldn't call it a chicken

Why?

Because it's a fertilized egg

Not an animal

Obviously at some point it does become a chicken

The egg stage is just the early stage ( one might say larval stage :^) ) of the chicken. The egg is a evolutionary protective adaptation for the animal inside which permits it safety to grow and mature.

The egg shell is just like a playpen for a baby chicken basically

Is a semen half a person then?

Its a necessary ingredient to begin human life

Then so is a zygote

A zygote is a very young human

That's nonsense

The human lifespan covers the moment of cell fertilization to the moment of death

It's hard to draw a line Kermit

Your life doesn't start 9 months after conception lol

No more than you're alive 9 months after death

Life is not personhood

A goldfish isn't a person just because it's alive

Right personhood is just the social recognition of a life like a human life

No