Message from @Dilbert Do-Hop

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2020-03-30 16:24:38 UTC  

@Larry What do you expect?.

2020-03-30 16:24:42 UTC  

There Ukrainians.

2020-03-30 16:24:52 UTC  

Nato is willing to dirty its hands so it's not surprising that they support Azov in Ukraine to spite the Russians

2020-03-30 16:24:57 UTC  

being anti Russia is a fake dichotomy, Russians only are taking Russian majority areas.

2020-03-30 16:25:00 UTC  

They even support Lukachenko now

2020-03-30 16:25:16 UTC  

As he was getting pressured via Russia's gas

2020-03-30 16:25:18 UTC  

@Canadian Man I meant that it's complicated because they're accepting funding from all over.

2020-03-30 16:25:27 UTC  

Mhm,

2020-03-30 16:26:02 UTC  

Idk what to think of the Ukraine situation because the Holodomor changed the demographics of Ukraine quite a bit

2020-03-30 16:26:19 UTC  

@Marcher_Cavalier It's a hoge poge buisness plan.

2020-03-30 16:26:22 UTC  

I dont think that Russia has a right to take over Russian majority areas in Baltics, Russians were only there for a short time really. However Ukraine is a completely different situation. In Eastern Ukraine, Russians have had an ethnic presence in that region about as long as Ukrainians have had.

2020-03-30 16:26:22 UTC  

Ukrainians used to have majoritie even outside their current borders

2020-03-30 16:26:42 UTC  

Ukraine and Russia ought to be part of the same state

2020-03-30 16:26:58 UTC  

I don't think that'll happen in a while.

2020-03-30 16:27:10 UTC  

Overall, Ukraine is quite cucked.

2020-03-30 16:27:16 UTC  

It doesn't look like Russian offensives are going to lead to the fall of Kiev

2020-03-30 16:27:21 UTC  

There is no point in saving a sinking ship.

2020-03-30 16:27:34 UTC  

I see Ukrainian and Russians opinions of eachother pre 2014 and its just sad, they used to love eachother.

2020-03-30 16:27:34 UTC  

When the hole's have mouted to a point of no return.

2020-03-30 16:27:34 UTC  

@Canadian Man Yes, because it's a semi-ad hoc arrangement that grew out of a defensive alliance, so it's a potential power bloc that is in play for a lot of the major global players.

2020-03-30 16:27:35 UTC  

They are still European though.

2020-03-30 16:27:42 UTC  

Ukraine and Russia are negotiating anyway

2020-03-30 16:28:07 UTC  

EU leaders independently of what the people on the other side of the pond think want this shit to end

2020-03-30 16:28:16 UTC  

Because they don't like the sanctions

2020-03-30 16:28:24 UTC  

They want Russian gas and oil

2020-03-30 16:28:37 UTC  

Is he trying to get killed?

2020-03-30 16:29:01 UTC  

Orban likes Israel though

2020-03-30 16:29:02 UTC  

Talk about based

2020-03-30 16:29:03 UTC  

He’s naming the corona

2020-03-30 16:29:17 UTC  

@EYEFORKNOWLEDGE156 Nope. Does corona "speculate with money?"

2020-03-30 16:29:27 UTC  

Yes

2020-03-30 16:29:29 UTC  

Does it "not have a homeland but feels like it owns the whole world?"

2020-03-30 16:29:45 UTC  

It does feel like it owns the world

2020-03-30 16:30:06 UTC  

It once lived in China and now feels like taking over the world

2020-03-30 16:30:18 UTC  

Obviously corona

2020-03-30 16:30:36 UTC  

I like how talks of "hidden enemies" always evoke the same idea to some. How it's so normalized is kind of funny.

2020-03-30 16:30:45 UTC  

@Marcher_Cavalier I can concur, people within our circle's state that this group are so called "Based". But Visgrad group is quite liberial within there ecnomy. Instead of moving farther East to secure (at least for a while) the Social securtiy of there nation. Visgrad instead has moved farther away and supported the West who on average are more submirssive than the East.

2020-03-30 16:31:17 UTC  

Were you have a "Liberial" ecnomy you allow the Social foundations of your nations to be degaded over time.

2020-03-30 16:33:20 UTC  

Tbf they came out of being dominated by the east for quite a while

2020-03-30 16:33:24 UTC  

From my point of view, Eastern Europe Still has deep wounds from the Communists, And have unfairinly have placed most of the blame of Communism on the Russian people.