Message from @Mr. Nessel

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2020-03-30 16:21:05 UTC  

Slovaki may turn.

2020-03-30 16:21:07 UTC  

In the short term, short stints of executive power which are later returned are a much better way to acclimatise otherwise republican-minded populations

2020-03-30 16:21:08 UTC  

There are no properly "based" countries in the west and if only a single one flips it's going to be made an example of

2020-03-30 16:21:34 UTC  

From me researching there bloc for "Based europeans" are promising.

2020-03-30 16:21:35 UTC  

No way to opt out without holistically challenging the Nato order and building an alternative

2020-03-30 16:21:54 UTC  

Visegrad will just mean deeper integration with Nato

2020-03-30 16:22:02 UTC  

Although i do agree most Central European nations are cucked into thinking that Russia may invade again.

2020-03-30 16:22:08 UTC  

Because Visegrad is deeply Americaphilic

2020-03-30 16:22:13 UTC  

^

2020-03-30 16:22:23 UTC  

They sort of are building a rival project, in the Three Seas Initiative, that's a complicated picture though.

2020-03-30 16:22:50 UTC  

Marcher, you image is quite clear.

2020-03-30 16:22:57 UTC  

That depends on unity, Poland and Hungary have been blocking EU bills to "punish" them. And I believe Italy did too when Salvini was still in control.

2020-03-30 16:23:05 UTC  

Well......

2020-03-30 16:23:06 UTC  

I don't think the EU is going anywhere because even the most euroskeptic countries in the EU aren't for leaving

2020-03-30 16:23:25 UTC  

Poland from research into there new's, seem's to be going through a culture war.

2020-03-30 16:23:26 UTC  

Poland etc. actually have surprisingly high approval ratings for it

2020-03-30 16:24:09 UTC  

Ukraine is fucking weird, you have straight up neo nazis fighting alongside Jews, Muslims and gays to fight against the Russians

2020-03-30 16:24:25 UTC  

Understanably, Central European nation's even though are "based" have been tricked.

2020-03-30 16:24:38 UTC  

@Larry What do you expect?.

2020-03-30 16:24:42 UTC  

There Ukrainians.

2020-03-30 16:24:52 UTC  

Nato is willing to dirty its hands so it's not surprising that they support Azov in Ukraine to spite the Russians

2020-03-30 16:24:57 UTC  

being anti Russia is a fake dichotomy, Russians only are taking Russian majority areas.

2020-03-30 16:25:00 UTC  

They even support Lukachenko now

2020-03-30 16:25:16 UTC  

As he was getting pressured via Russia's gas

2020-03-30 16:25:18 UTC  

@Canadian Man I meant that it's complicated because they're accepting funding from all over.

2020-03-30 16:25:27 UTC  

Mhm,

2020-03-30 16:26:02 UTC  

Idk what to think of the Ukraine situation because the Holodomor changed the demographics of Ukraine quite a bit

2020-03-30 16:26:19 UTC  

@Marcher_Cavalier It's a hoge poge buisness plan.

2020-03-30 16:26:22 UTC  

I dont think that Russia has a right to take over Russian majority areas in Baltics, Russians were only there for a short time really. However Ukraine is a completely different situation. In Eastern Ukraine, Russians have had an ethnic presence in that region about as long as Ukrainians have had.

2020-03-30 16:26:22 UTC  

Ukrainians used to have majoritie even outside their current borders

2020-03-30 16:26:42 UTC  

Ukraine and Russia ought to be part of the same state

2020-03-30 16:26:58 UTC  

I don't think that'll happen in a while.

2020-03-30 16:27:10 UTC  

Overall, Ukraine is quite cucked.

2020-03-30 16:27:16 UTC  

It doesn't look like Russian offensives are going to lead to the fall of Kiev

2020-03-30 16:27:21 UTC  

There is no point in saving a sinking ship.

2020-03-30 16:27:34 UTC  

I see Ukrainian and Russians opinions of eachother pre 2014 and its just sad, they used to love eachother.

2020-03-30 16:27:34 UTC  

When the hole's have mouted to a point of no return.

2020-03-30 16:27:34 UTC  

@Canadian Man Yes, because it's a semi-ad hoc arrangement that grew out of a defensive alliance, so it's a potential power bloc that is in play for a lot of the major global players.

2020-03-30 16:27:35 UTC  

They are still European though.

2020-03-30 16:27:42 UTC  

Ukraine and Russia are negotiating anyway

2020-03-30 16:28:07 UTC  

EU leaders independently of what the people on the other side of the pond think want this shit to end