Message from @Mr.Fisch(炫龙)

Discord ID: 696484296474492998


2020-04-05 21:43:37 UTC  

It could have gone better, it could have gone worse

2020-04-05 21:43:59 UTC  

I'd rather have western dominance in that region than Chinese or Russian dominance

2020-04-05 21:44:25 UTC  

Geopolitics has very little to do with morals and everything to do with power and resources

2020-04-05 21:45:09 UTC  

Moralising about muh war by gubernment bad is fucking gay

2020-04-05 21:46:31 UTC  

I'm glad you've joined this server. You might begin to realise that libertarianism, while being intellectually interesting and having a lot of decent things to say; especially on economics, is completely unfit to deal with modern problems and geopolitical situations.

2020-04-05 21:47:06 UTC  

Shame Social Matter doesn't exist anymore. I remember they had a good few articles of libertarianism which are worth a read.

2020-04-05 21:47:44 UTC  

Listen to that Truediltom audioclip, you might find it interesting.

2020-04-05 22:02:03 UTC  

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2020-04-05 22:02:03 UTC  

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2020-04-05 22:02:04 UTC  

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2020-04-05 22:04:15 UTC  

> It could have gone better, it could have gone worse
Yeah, we don't know.

> I'd rather have western dominance in that region than Chinese or Russian dominance

Why? I understand your concerns, but I doubt that the west (if there is some united west) has dominance in that regions.
Also, why do you fear the dominance of two powers in that region, who already have problems establishing their dominance over their own territory.

> Geopolitics has very little to do with morals and everything to do with power and resources

I didn't moralize. I argued against aggression into foreign countries, since they create far bigger problems in the long-run. See mass immigration, political Islam, destabilized failed states... So why can't free trade and security partnership work then?

> I'm glad you've joined this server. You might begin to realise that libertarianism, while being intellectually interesting and having a lot of decent things to say; especially on economics, is completely unfit to deal with modern problems and geopolitical situations.
@William

Yeah, me as well. See what I'll pick up then. 😎

2020-04-05 22:04:21 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672211350436708356/696480377153257522/Benito_Mussolini_primo_piano2.jpg

2020-04-05 22:04:50 UTC  

Great one closs

2020-04-05 22:05:11 UTC  

nice

2020-04-05 22:07:35 UTC  

@Despot Romanicus the Enslaver lolberts may actually have a sober understanding of power they are just afraid of it or position themselves against it

2020-04-05 22:12:34 UTC  

They will consume in silence just like the rest of the Non-Despoilers

2020-04-05 22:19:20 UTC  

the turkroach faggot @Mr.Fisch(炫龙) is shitting up other discords as well it seems

2020-04-05 22:19:43 UTC  

@Yak oh yak my friend is here as well

2020-04-05 22:19:46 UTC  

😂

2020-04-05 22:19:56 UTC  

@Fasces as well

2020-04-05 22:29:57 UTC  

Gway

2020-04-05 23:19:16 UTC  

My theory, for some of them at least, is less state corruption or towering over the minority, and more that they dislike the state because it can create laws and security, more specifically laws that can *outlaw* what they personally, morally, or economically want

I think the libertarian/ancap “child slave/soldier” meme (which implies decadence) is probably more truthful than some realize

2020-04-05 23:34:41 UTC  

I think there's a more right-leaning mindset that goes into libertarianism, combined with a more left-leaning mindset. That's the more left-leaning side.

2020-04-06 00:32:40 UTC  

The biggest issue with a libertarian mindset is that they see power as the source of trouble rather than a tool wielded by whoever gets his hands on to it

2020-04-06 00:32:59 UTC  

Think of it in terms of guns

2020-04-06 00:33:41 UTC  

Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people and good people with guns can make a difference

2020-04-06 00:34:50 UTC  

Power doesn't fuck you over, the people in charge fuck you over.

2020-04-06 00:36:13 UTC  

Right, if your mindset is guns are always causing wars, got to get rid of all the guns, you're going to end up losing a lot of wars fast

2020-04-06 00:36:25 UTC  

You're not empowering them by letting quarantine happen. The fact they're happening despite the cries of libertarians show power had already been posessed and didn't need to be handed

2020-04-06 00:38:56 UTC  

If anything we should put forward positive things that governments ought to do, call them out for things they didn't do

2020-04-06 00:39:44 UTC  

When we call them out doing something it has to be for a good reason

2020-04-06 01:21:10 UTC  

@Mr. Nessel yea and smart libertarias realize that which is why the libertarian to alt right pipeline exists

2020-04-06 01:21:17 UTC  

Or hoppe

2020-04-06 02:07:05 UTC  

2020-04-06 02:21:08 UTC  

The More Order we have within ourselves the less order we need from outside forces. A Homogenous Society that is hard working, morally upright, and has a strong civil society would not need as much government intervention then one where everything is getting broken apart. But even in a perfect society i still think the government can do good things for its people and for collective action where individuals cant do it themselves. Going to the moon was something only the collective manpower and resources of the government could of done for example

2020-04-06 02:23:15 UTC  

2020-04-06 09:29:12 UTC  

I think order within oneself for most people depends on external circumstances. People are creatures of their time so the majority who are incapable of getting closer to a life in line with all that is good true and beautifull need people who are willing to push them to be like that

2020-04-06 09:29:56 UTC  

If we were all free thinkers society would've collapsed ages ago so I don't really blame them for being like that

2020-04-06 09:31:04 UTC  

Society should be treated as one organism which needs to be holistically kept in good health. It doesn't matter if most cells are healthy when there's a cancer spreading etc.

2020-04-06 13:02:11 UTC  

Useless fact of the day:
If your reverse Xerxes's name you get SEXREX