@Despot Romanicus the Enslaver lolberts may actually have a sober understanding of power they are just afraid of it or position themselves against it

They will consume in silence just like the rest of the Non-Despoilers

the turkroach faggot @Mr.Fisch（炫龙） is shitting up other discords as well it seems

@Yak oh yak my friend is here as well

😂

@Fasces as well

Gway

My theory, for some of them at least, is less state corruption or towering over the minority, and more that they dislike the state because it can create laws and security, more specifically laws that can *outlaw* what they personally, morally, or economically want

I think the libertarian/ancap “child slave/soldier” meme (which implies decadence) is probably more truthful than some realize

I think there's a more right-leaning mindset that goes into libertarianism, combined with a more left-leaning mindset. That's the more left-leaning side.

The biggest issue with a libertarian mindset is that they see power as the source of trouble rather than a tool wielded by whoever gets his hands on to it

Think of it in terms of guns

Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people and good people with guns can make a difference

Power doesn't fuck you over, the people in charge fuck you over.

Right, if your mindset is guns are always causing wars, got to get rid of all the guns, you're going to end up losing a lot of wars fast

You're not empowering them by letting quarantine happen. The fact they're happening despite the cries of libertarians show power had already been posessed and didn't need to be handed

If anything we should put forward positive things that governments ought to do, call them out for things they didn't do

When we call them out doing something it has to be for a good reason

@Mr. Nessel yea and smart libertarias realize that which is why the libertarian to alt right pipeline exists

Or hoppe

The More Order we have within ourselves the less order we need from outside forces. A Homogenous Society that is hard working, morally upright, and has a strong civil society would not need as much government intervention then one where everything is getting broken apart. But even in a perfect society i still think the government can do good things for its people and for collective action where individuals cant do it themselves. Going to the moon was something only the collective manpower and resources of the government could of done for example

I think order within oneself for most people depends on external circumstances. People are creatures of their time so the majority who are incapable of getting closer to a life in line with all that is good true and beautifull need people who are willing to push them to be like that

If we were all free thinkers society would've collapsed ages ago so I don't really blame them for being like that

Society should be treated as one organism which needs to be holistically kept in good health. It doesn't matter if most cells are healthy when there's a cancer spreading etc.

Useless fact of the day:
If your reverse Xerxes's name you get SEXREX

What a Chad

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@Mr. Nessel I Agree 100%. I was just saying that when you have Stable Families, A Strong Moral Foundation, and a Healthy Community you can have a orderly society without much government intervention (But as i said even in a perfect society id still have the gov doing things). For a mini example but like people saying "Thank You", or conducting themselves with Class. This isnt something the government can really force but with the right inner morality and people being brought up by their parents, religious institutions etc to conduct themselves in a certain way we can have these more immaterial attuites of our civilization be brought about that cant really be brought about by force.

Stable families,morals and strong communities create good government

Not the other way around

> Stable families,morals and strong communities create good government
@kongzi That's true but bad government can destroy families and communities. Which makes it more likely that people will not develop good morals.

Well there needs to be some sort of force in place to prevent people from falling into societal immorality

Government should be that force

@Felix the Monarchist you got the government surveillance app yet?

@DarkEagle553 Pft.

Which one?

>Well there needs to be some sort of force in place to prevent people from falling into societal immoralityWell there needs to be some sort of force in place to prevent people from falling into societal immorality
So, are you moral or immoral?

Ah just the plans of austrian gov

What’s wrong with telling people what to do?

https://www.fbi.gov/news/apps/fitnessapp Come on the FBI fitness app is the best

I’m technically immoral because I’m not perfect, no one is

But that doesn’t mean that we should *allow* immorality to run rampant in our society