Message from @Mr. Nessel

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2020-04-07 20:59:34 UTC  

Aren't Sumerians a language isolate

2020-04-07 20:59:40 UTC  

Nvm Elamites

2020-04-07 21:00:02 UTC  

Yes, but that is not means much

2020-04-07 21:01:37 UTC  

@Mr. Nessel @TheEternalSearcher 𐠊𐠔 Interesting thing is that Dravidians are just like Indo Aryans, invaders from the west, not indigenous, originally they were farmers from Iran possibly related to Elamites. the Indigenous peoples are Veddoids.

2020-04-07 21:02:27 UTC  

I thought Dravidians are native to India and got displaced by Indo Aryans in the North

2020-04-07 21:02:45 UTC  

I'm sure they're related somehow to population in Iran somehow

2020-04-07 21:03:06 UTC  

Because afaik there were Dravidian enclaves in Iran or Pakistan

2020-04-07 21:03:09 UTC  

They are as native to the subcontinent as the Inuit who invaded from Siberia and killed off the Dorset natives are native to the Americas.

2020-04-07 21:03:47 UTC  

Interesting

2020-04-07 21:03:51 UTC  

When they conquered the subcontinent most of them admixed with the Veddoids

2020-04-07 21:03:59 UTC  

Most of their DNA is Veddoid

2020-04-07 21:05:11 UTC  

Circassians and Kartvelians are both direct descendant of the caucasian hunter gatherers but belong to unique language families

2020-04-07 21:05:58 UTC  

Remember guys agriculture and reading is degenerate

2020-04-07 21:06:49 UTC  

Yeah. Embrace your ancestors from the step
EEFs were a bunch of matriarchal simps

2020-04-07 21:07:36 UTC  

The arrows are migrations of Arians(proto-Iranians) in the levant

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672211350436708356/697190868288929892/unknown.png

2020-04-07 21:08:36 UTC  

Most of the Aryans who showed up in India were men.

2020-04-07 21:09:31 UTC  

(that's what violent conquest tends to look like in the genetic record)

2020-04-07 21:11:55 UTC  

A good way to look at the northern middle east (Turkey, North western Iran north iraq & syria) is as giant genetic bridge of the Caucasoid race (North Africans, Europeans, South Asians).

2020-04-07 21:12:37 UTC  

Yeah I see them as our equivalent to the Bering bridge

2020-04-07 21:13:27 UTC  

I saw an interesting video lecture about the early Indo-Europeans once. The professor joked that you could make the case that the IEs were proto-hippies because they may have cultivated psychedelic drugs, and about 1/4 of Scythian warrior graves were female.

2020-04-07 21:13:55 UTC  

lmao

2020-04-07 21:14:33 UTC  

Idk hunter gatherers and EEF fit more in with it in my mind

2020-04-07 21:14:46 UTC  

hunter gatherers because nature worship and tree huggers

2020-04-07 21:15:23 UTC  

EEF because matriarchal peasants who got conquered by the archetypal conquerer people

2020-04-07 21:15:32 UTC  

Weaklings basically

2020-04-07 21:15:48 UTC  

Yes.

2020-04-07 21:19:02 UTC  

Its time to get your tinfoil out boys.

Coronavirus is a US made bioweapon, released in Iran and behest of the Rockefellers & judes. And now is being exploited to bring about the NWO.

https://youtu.be/antCutjUi0s

2020-04-07 21:19:10 UTC  

It's the cycle of ancient history.
>someone sets up civilization
>civilization gets conquered by nomads
>nomads become civilized

2020-04-07 21:19:35 UTC  

Except pastoralists burned it to the ground

2020-04-07 21:20:00 UTC  

Mongols are similiar too

2020-04-07 21:20:10 UTC  

At least in parts of the empire

2020-04-07 21:20:16 UTC  

Sometimes but not always.

2020-04-07 21:21:43 UTC  

I've been wondering how mobile hunter gathere populations actually were considering certain sites where they lived have evidence for continuous inhabitation which seems like good evidence for distinct territory/hunting grounds

2020-04-07 21:22:40 UTC  

EEF encroached on this slowly
The only really nomadic populations I can think of relied on grazing and were highly violent

2020-04-07 21:23:36 UTC  

Pastoralists are well optimized to win wars against early civilizations but very badly optimized for maintaining control over early civilizations. (limited numbers + highly decentralized organization)

2020-04-07 21:24:14 UTC  

That's why groups like the Suebi just continually comitted genocide on their neighbours afaik

2020-04-07 21:24:20 UTC  

If you can't rule them

2020-04-07 21:24:45 UTC  

As for how mobile hunter gatherers were, no more mobile than they could walk, I would imagine.

2020-04-07 21:24:57 UTC  

Also wondering about the lack of permanent settlements before agriculture because fishing is a thing

2020-04-07 21:24:58 UTC  

@21ooAB sorry mate wont be able to join, was having a game with a budy and its ran over the ideal time, sorry for any fuck about for you

2020-04-07 21:26:00 UTC  

I know that permanent or semi-permanent fishing villages were a thing centuries before the first cities.